Anti 012!!! [Archive] - Lelong Forum

davis

18-10-03, 02:05

---aiyoh.... now got choice-mah... 3 different operator... like Celcom...started in 1989... :mad: ...
--one and only that time ...complain also no use... just like one and only Telekom--lah...
--take it or leave it...

--Maxis.. DiGi.. TMTouch (formerly Ermatel) ...TimeCel (formerly Adam)... started in 1995...

--if Celcom is that good... can you tell me ...where were all the previous 5 years customers in hand..?
--till now Maxis had more customers the Celcom...
--now even took over by Telekom....
--then why people choose Maxis.. it's not that it's the best...
--but it's better than the others... right...?
Hey. Uncle BDL, you forgot something. When there is a choice. People will choose one of the choice. It's the human behaviour. Normal-lah,

People choose Maxis because mouth to mouth effect really works in this world. From the Management study... a good thing if one person know then the good news will spread to 500 peoples, then the bad things also vice versa.

It's more on human behaviour rather than the truth of technology.

Please go to CMC and study their scientific study for the MObile service. 019 is the best, second is DiGi and third is Maxis.

http://www.mcmc.gov.my/mcmc/index.asp
*I couldn't find the report, someone please help me get the report and post it overhere.

Cheersz..... the truth is out there.

davis

18-10-03, 02:10

Commission Determination on the Mandatory Standards for Quality of Service (Public Cellular Service)
Determination No. 2 of 2002 (http://www.mcmc.gov.my/mcmc/registers/cma/comdeter/pdf/d2.pdf)

Mandatory Standards For Quality of Service
Public Cellular Service Report and Declaration Form
Download : MS Word (http://www.mcmc.gov.my/mcmc/what_we_do/qos/forms/PublicCellular.doc) | PDF (http://www.mcmc.gov.my/mcmc/what_we_do/qos/forms/PublicCellular.pdf)

I only found this two link which related with the survey, I still couldn't find the result yet.

amazon2020

18-10-03, 03:39

bdl

18-10-03, 09:52

--heh...heh... good or no good it's up to the people choice.... if no good will you still stick to it...
--sure you left... right... that's what Celcom is facing the problem...
--why the previuos customer run away... because they got better choice...right...?
-- so you make your choice-mah... so... why no body can still answer my question...?
--where were all the 5 years customers Celcom had from 1989-1994 ...? :D ...
--answer is they made a better choice.... :D ...

amazon2020

18-10-03, 12:59

the customer since 1989-1994 wasn't that much becoz at that time mobile phone users were so few. well.. it doesn't matter for me. what i know... my family started using celcom since 10 years ago, and now all my family members are using celcom, and THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS I GUESS SO IS, THERE ISN'T ANY PROBLEM WITH CELCOM. hehehehe....

bdl

18-10-03, 13:06

amazon2020

18-10-03, 16:49

--yes... the only problem is all the Celcom is that the previuos customers all run away...
--becuase they were NOT SATISFIED with thier service...
--last time 010 that time no choice... now got better choice-mah... :D ....
--so simple also don't understand-meh... :D ...

yalah Mr. 50 years old here must win, becoz he is UNCLE rite? maxis good lah. no other provider can beat them. i'll call up maxis to give u some sort of medal lah old man. u talk like u own the company. maybe maxis CEO should help to wipe ur arse. hehehe. i figured out people here call u UNCLE, so much respect huh, well, i don't think that i need to call u UNCLE too. so be it lah... whatever...

bdl

18-10-03, 17:13

--heh...heh... no need for you to call me ..uncle.... as i'm actually not your uncle also...
--please-lah accept the fact-lah... if Celcom is that good...
--they should have keep their 5 years customers and keep growing to be No. 1...
--they got the advantage... but why they can't ... even Maxis started 1995...
--Celcom also started their GSM in 1995... why loose out...
--don't tell me the point again...there's less mobile user between 1989 - 1994....
--they got nothing to do with it... when both started GSM Network 1995... :D ....
--hah..hah... finally Celcom is so good bought over buy Telekom... :D ....

davis

18-10-03, 20:40

thanx davis for this info. i guess so that celcom is the best for REAL. i'm sure bdl won't agree with this becoz for the whole time i knew he was a maxis supporter. probably got some share in the company lah kot... :)
It's OK. I just wanna share out whatever I know. May be I am wrong for doing this, but I feel it's good to tell.

davis

18-10-03, 21:18

Hi. I guess we better make ourself understand, what ever choices we make is depend our hear, listen and experience.

Most of the people make their choice usually are influenced by others people surrounding them. I believe every people in this forum here got the same experience as well too.

In political verbs, they named this group of people as PUBLIC.

Now we understand why Maxis is "TOP" because they managed branded themselves.

Still remember what I posted before? About Maxis how the start their business?

They used to be part of ASTRO sister company. They use "SATELLITE" this word to promote their service, and make every people believe they are really using this kind of advance service but in real is not. TM touch did it before few years back after they "see" how successful Maxis is, but they fail because people aware that there is no such service provided. The only Satellite phone in the world IRIDIUM also declare bankrupt.
*TM touch got another new service using IndoSat, a true satellite phone service.

About the 010 service, celcom do provide best ever coverage in Malaysia region and even the cheapest plan you can get. Talk from 7pm to 7am FOC 010 to 010 2 years back!!!! People still choose others because they need choices, choice of Transceiver (mobile phone).

About the Celcom and TM touch merging. One thing for sure we must know Celcom is under Technology Resources Industries (You all stay in KL can see the building just beside Citibank/Lion Tower). TRI major share holder belong to Tan Sri Tajuddin Bin Ramli (http://www.mykedah.com/e_20hall_fame/e202_3_02.htm). He in trouble that's why he loose out the share of TRI and TM touch doing brute force stock acquiring, that's why people might think that TM buy Celcom. If not TM touch will become history and Celcom still alive.

Nowsaday if we look at our forum, we know that DiGi still the best choice for most of our forumers here but the only lack of point is their Coverage area and they are still working on to improve their coverage area. Every months there are around 30 to 40 sites in Malaysia got new coverage or impovement.

OK. For my personal opinion the Maxis helpdesk really sucks and it's true. I call them before about the top up card I bought from them in their Customer Service Center in KL, the card numbers already used by somebody else and I have to do so many follow up calls to them to help me out. Since 17 September 2003 until still have no news and they promised to call me back in 4 working days always are the empty promised.

My ex did wrongly key in others people phone numbers instead her own phone numbers when she want to top up her DiGi prepaid. The issue solved by the helpdesk in just 1 week's time only-niah,

Oh yeah.. about the Maxis customer service center. Their customer service personnel even sucks. When they attend my case, he just surfing his mailbox and view all the Porn photos infront of me and keep on telling me, he is doing some system query. I am so frustrated and tell him on the spot, are you checking your mailbox or your system?

OK... This is my personal experience and opinion. Take it easy, I believe we are matured enough to absorb the words I write up there.

Cheerz :)

ceo684

18-10-03, 22:52

actually, celcom quality previously was because its only used by ppl who can afford the network access etc (ie u pay for quality)

who else charges for the prepaid user customer service other than the great 012? we call them for fun issit? we call them because the bloody network got problem!!! and summore want us to PAY for their weakness/problem etc.. power failure? takkan the whole central switch system etc got no generator? lousy la maxis....how many times failure ledi... looking at the 3 phones' network strength i have, 019 and 016 is good. I'm in Klang. Town. Urban area. NOT KAMPUNG. Network = 1/2 bars usually in the open. And it happens on any phone i have. Postcode 41000

019 customer service really good, responsive (sent email at 1am got reply at 5.45 am same day when i check mail at 9 am same day too - they noe what they are doing. Maxis email cust service take 1 whole bloody week to reply you noe!! wanna see? come to klang i show u the reply i got from them. 1 week later. MAXIS IS THE BEST IN CUSTOMER SATISFACTION, eh?

ceo684

18-10-03, 23:38

amazon2020

19-10-03, 05:04

yoshiki - 15 mins failure? whole freaking 16.10.2003 down u noe!

best coverage? - you just go tesco klang basement. all other network can pakai. 012 tadak signal.

012 in port klang area - lousy. 1/2 bars on a 9210 with antenna fully up. using 019 with same phone in same spot, no prob.

012 - u see la...how good their customer service...power failure.. okay.. then summore their 1300 820 120 cannot call...either using 017 or my telekom fixed line...asyik busy the whole day.. ***

012 - what have they done? oni noe how to susahkan people.

thanx davis, and thanx ceo684 for bringing out all the facts. i love to hear all these facts. i don't mind if other people say 019 is no good. just like davis said, i reallize the truth, i don't need any words from such people like bdl. hehehe. he has just got the same facts to tell all the time. it's ok, i love to sound rude when i know that i know what i am doing. say i am rude, becoz i am. i am a rude 21 years old maniac. but when i know what i am talking about, i'll stick to it. stay cool and no need to menggelabah lah bdl. u r not going to loose all ur shares in maxis. just like i said, maxis ceo should help to clean ur arse. by the way, ceo684, u stay in klang ha? u talk all about klang coverage, u must live in klang. which part?

chenyc

19-10-03, 07:52

ceo684

19-10-03, 10:03

amazon - i live in taman maznah (postcode 41000).. near to connaught bridge power station there.. furthermore it cant be a phone prob as 9210 is a good phone ma.. :)

laytiong - 012 more customers meh? (speaking of 012 prefix oni, not 017) i tot 012/019 was like 3.8 and 4.1 million respectively.. and summore i cant explain why ppl are all changing over to 019... just check my phonebook... a lot of gals in there formerly 012, now on 019.. 012 that good meh? hehe

019 was technically good, but the political/company leadership lousy ma...that's why its not popular. 012 is bad la...like my fren say - pay for the brand name oni...and keep paying if u have problems... and then pay like hell for lousy network..

012 advertisements should be cut back...the 1 million plus ringgit can be saved, they have a huge number of customers, and the $ should be used to improve network quality and maintaining domestic roaming between 012 (900MHz) and 017 (1800 MHz) because two is better than one. (especially when 012 SUCKS in Klang area). Now we all have to suffer being incommunicado along certain stretches of the NorthSouth Expressway. Thanks a million, maxis - You took away my perfect 017 coverage in my house and gave me a lousy 1/2 bars in my house. I am SO happy about lousy network signal.

ceo684

19-10-03, 10:05

oh actually from my understanding:

Celcom 019 bought over TMtouch 013
Then, Telekom Malaysia (ficed line business) bought over 019 (who holds 013)

bdl

19-10-03, 12:39

thanx davis, and thanx ceo684 for bringing out all the facts. i love to hear all these facts. i don't mind if other people say 019 is no good. just like davis said, i reallize the truth, i don't need any words from such people like bdl. hehehe. he has just got the same facts to tell all the time. it's ok, i love to sound rude when i know that i know what i am doing. say i am rude, becoz i am. i am a rude 21 years old maniac. but when i know what i am talking about, i'll stick to it. stay cool and no need to menggelabah lah bdl. u r not going to loose all ur shares in maxis. just like i said, maxis ceo should help to clean ur arse. by the way, ceo684, u stay in klang ha? u talk all about klang coverage, u must live in klang. which part?

--heh...heh.. thank you for admit that you are rude.... :D ....your appology accepted....
--ok... just stick to your choice... you better do that of else Telekom may sell off Celcom without your support... :D ...

daniel31

19-10-03, 12:42

Well, l used 013 and 016 before and l think 016 (Prepaid) is better. My area is Kuching Sarawak.

Well, there is no point to argue until so mad lar. Keep cool man.
But guess what, l using Vodafone right now. If they can enter the Malaysia market, l,m sure all those companies will eat grass.

bdl

19-10-03, 12:49

daniel31

19-10-03, 12:49

Yeah...l must admit of point here about the Maxis operator. Well, not just Maxis, most of the companies in Malaysia have that kind of operator. Operator should be helpful and friendly but they aren't!! This is totally sucks.......!!!

ceo684

19-10-03, 17:08

vodafone where can compare to local telco? overseas telco operate on the basis that the CUSTOMER IS KING. 012 operate on the basis that CUSTOMER IS A PIECE OF SH1T

daniel31

19-10-03, 18:02

Yeah....l like your statement here about "CUSTOMER IS KING". That why l said not just Maxis, but most of the operator here is so rude. They just don't understand they actually receive a salary for their work.

s_jamm

19-10-03, 18:06

I go for cheap monthly bill he he

amazon2020

19-10-03, 18:32

I go for cheap monthly bill he he

i go for the best coverage :)

ceo684

19-10-03, 20:40

012 aiyah....their RM100 reloads only carry 60 days validity. Other telco's 100 reload carry 90/100 days access, depending on telco la.

ceo684

19-10-03, 20:45

well..im going to plonk down with a nice 019 billing plan next mth... finishing up prepaid credit and maybe distribute the sims to girl friends (two words ar)... or maybe kedekut and lelong em off...hehehe...

laytiong

19-10-03, 22:08

up to u...dun come crawling back and eat your own words...

i'm happy with my hotlink...and maxis has MORE customers than celcom or tmtouch combined...

if RM100 lasts u only 60 days and u complain..y dun u buy RM60 so u dun waste the RM40?

panda00

19-10-03, 23:52

:( the maxis network quality nowadays is really downgoing , especially in Klang......... Zero bar appears quite a few times within 2 weeks and even there is full bar, i try calling my own cell phone using house phone , also cannot get through - sounded like line engaged or transfer to my voicebox.

:mad: The worse is that , whenever my oversea friends call my cell phone , although the line isn't in use, auto-transfer to voicebox....... Hm, don't know what's wrong with maxis ?

I use digi interchangebly with maxis now. Why ? I just simply like my maxis no. nice no. :p Hm.... use 019 before , good coverage and the network was never down :)

Hopefully all these mobile networks will keep on improving , and benefit us ;)

rdhermy

20-10-03, 00:16

I think Maxis customer service is better than other telcos. That's why many people use maxis.. But beware.. do some homework before signing up with any maxis promotion or you will regret it.

Whatever telcos you use.. the telecommunication cost is still high here. Why? Maybe we can ask telekom... the big boss of all telcos..

ceo684

20-10-03, 10:04

panda00 - like i said... 012 really going down the drain in Klang... but some ppl ere not frm klang...so kenot really comment :p

rdhermy - tell me, what is so special about paying local call rate (on fixed line or mobile) just to tok with the 012 customer service consultant? why pay when all other telco is FOC calls to customer service? 012 customer service for those who have too much money to spend... Just to check on a 012-9 series simpack validity (see whether stolen onnot) oso must pay. Ppl use maxis for one reason oni - cos their frens oso use, not looking at the technical side of it.

laytiong - i tot 3 months...where got so much time to see the validity period?! dat time was in a hurry so plopped 100 in the hotlink... valid 2 mths only...bengang...

maxis (012 ALONE) has 3.85m customers. Celcom (019) has 4.1 m customers.

ppl oso complaining about how bad maxis is ...maybe in penang different case, cos PG is small area ma....30 BTS solve the whole prob ledi...lol

rdhermy

20-10-03, 23:30

calling 123 from maxis mobile is free..
I hope, there are some maxis board of directors joining the forum. Let them learn some lesson. Here in my campus, maxis is start losing their customers.. other telcos is getting better now. digi and celcom for instance..

ceo684

21-10-03, 11:10

123 is only for postpaid users..... hotlink users all have to pay in some way just to tok to customer service... sigh

chenyc

27-11-03, 18:25

maxis is sucking our money. The old SIM kad(RM238, 168, 123 pack) should give free upgrade SIM kad. We bought so expensive that time and we gonna pay RM10 for upgrading? Nonsense. :mad: Charge this, charge that. I use maxis just because the coverage and SMS RM0.15 only. Now SMS RM0.20 to other operator. Makes me so disappointed. Even activate GPRS also want to charge us RM10. celcom and DiGi activate WAP/GPRS are free. I dunno why Hotlink can't give FOC. Hotlink dun appreciate their old customers. :(

I dunno why they introduce the 9 series number to Central. Maybe in Pahang/Kelantan/Terengganu distreet dun have many buy their SIM pack. Makes people in KL so confuse wether it is Central number or not.

ceo684

28-11-03, 17:59

yupz..why nobody open 1 series? the KL number allocation is too limited - 1 series would mean about 5 million more possible mobile numbers to go around, and also lotsa good #s.

RE maxis: why did they shut down the 1800Mhz coverage? if they run both in tandem like 013+019 there will be no bandwidth problem. 900+1800 Mhz has much more spectrum bandwidth than 900 Mhz alone.

BTW now there arent any more NEW 012-2/3/6 series in production if im right? the 9-series should be 900-949 KL and 950-999 pahang/xganu etc. Typical of maxis - not systematic at all. Dunno why the klcc i center is full of ppl.

The simpacks lasttime were expensive... but now for budget use prepaid 017 (min reload 20) and 013 (100 reload for 75-80) are the cheapest.. kenot say 012 here cos its sms is really CUTTHROAT. maxis juz SUX!!

chenyc

29-11-03, 12:18

I now understand already. When I went Kuantan(Pahang)2 months ago, maxis coverage is bad. Maximum 2 bar. Before arrive at Kuantan, small town like Temerloh, Maran, Jengka, Gambang no coverage. No wonder maxis introduce 9 series to KL. maxis is creep. :(

davis

29-11-03, 20:52

Let our Uncle BDL solve all the Maxis (may be TimeCel) users doubt.

Err hemm... Mr. BDL here's your MIC...

cre8tif

30-11-03, 01:19

ceo684

01-12-03, 15:09

for best coverage into east peninsular andsabah/sarawak ... 019 is da best

I'll second that :D
kononnya no.1 in mobile coverage this maxis

mul2506

14-12-03, 18:12

chenyc

14-12-03, 18:22

15 December 12.01am-8am can't reload and can't download thing from maxis. :( Wonder what the new thing they upgrade... this few days hardly to call out and I just visited Hotlink website saying that it is normal to experiencing network problem and drop call when in the process in upgrading.

idle-jam

14-12-03, 21:36

time will tell ...

ben7128

14-12-03, 21:55

Yeah.. You can go anywhere in Swak and Sabah and still got coverage with 019. Just for your info, Celcom introduces new 5 series numbers for Sabah and 4 series to Sarawak.. Ran out of numbers for this two states.. Why? Because they give good service! The statistics speaks for themselves.
I used Sarawak 019 fix line before for few years...Services and Coverage is very good ,but I giveup because is too expensive for the services Charge.:D...

kranz

14-12-03, 22:01

Let our Uncle BDL solve all the Maxis (may be TimeCel) users doubt.

Err hemm... Mr. BDL here's your MIC...Speaking on behalf of uncle BDL:

Ladies and gentlemens, ah hemm.. Ok.. here I have a gun with me.. so tell me should I shot the thread starter? Or myself?

Just kidding everyone.. calm down.. smells like something is not going quite ok here...

Have been using Maxis fixed line since 2 years ago. Haven't try other company so no comment.

sk8ter

14-12-03, 22:20

hehe..i think Uncle bdl got fed up explaining

ceo684

15-12-03, 02:08

aiyah. it boils down to only TWO choices for central zone of m'sia.

Forget maxis. They suck in the northern region.

Expensive rates but best coverage, best EFR call quality = 019 postpaid

Cheap rates, OK-OK coverage and lousy call quality (FR codec) = 016 postpaid (mobile one/horizon $80)

PS - maybe our uncle bdl bought a cheap (junk #) 019 xplore and is currently testing out celcom quality etc for the 1st time in his life quietly...kekekeke...

davis

15-12-03, 12:38

Speaking on behalf of uncle BDL:

Ladies and gentlemens, ah hemm.. Ok.. here I have a gun with me.. so tell me should I shot the thread starter? Or myself?

Just kidding everyone.. calm down.. smells like something is not going quite ok here...

Have been using Maxis fixed line since 2 years ago. Haven't try other company so no comment.
hahah... Cool man. You are the Speaker!

Anyway let our uncle BDL rest a while. He's still polish and lube his gun or may be try out his new weapon.

haha.... Yeah.. Peace Brother (KFC)

bdl

15-12-03, 14:43

--heh...heh... had been customer of Celcom since they started 1st day in Penang 1990... :D ...
-- that time one & only 010 besides Telekom's ATUR 011 ... :D ...
-- my previous no. 010-4446060 ... 010-4477778 ...
--then come GSM 019-4446060 ... 019-4477778 ...
-- now all cut off -liao because their service very bad ..
-- that time call helpline ... nobody answer especially on Saturday ..
--since office is half day .. no choice had to call helpline... but can help as no one answer ..
--just keep on ringing ... got friend working as officer ... ask why like that .. hah..hah..
-- you know what she told me ... "you know-lah .. that's how they work.."..

-- since I started using Maxis ... I passed my 019-4477778 to my son ...
-- every time his friends would call my Maxis line .. "uncle .. you son's phone not on-kah..?
-- always go to voicemail ..I said my son never switched off his phone-one .. it's on 24 hours ..

-- sometimes my son called me while I was palying badminton.. after miiesd call ..
-- during interval .. I called him back .. after called 4 times all go to voicemail ...
-- then had to wait for him to call back ... as already cost me 40 sen for 4 times answer by voicemail

-- after so many years .. then I told my son better swiched to Maxis -lah ..
- then I no need to be your operator ... when your friends can't reach you ..
-- now his friends seldom call my number already ... so that's my experience with Celcom..
-- since 1990 till 2001 ... :D ...

ceo684

15-12-03, 15:02

also depends on the phone la....if ur son is using a freaking ole ericsson 768 series of cos no reception la....if he wuz using a 9210 surely tadak problem wan. hehehe

now every telco is adding more BTS and getting better switches/HLR routers etc... shouldnt be a prob... but when its crowded, maxis just wont work .... best example was Aug30 2003, whole evening maxis just no network (got signal) in KL sentral/KLCC/Subang area. BTW there IS a maxis center in KLCC. Dunno why la...maxis just sucks on the days that i go to KL...hehe

bdl

15-12-03, 16:06

--heh...heh... I had been using handphone & selling handphone since 1990 ...
-- nothing wrong with the phone I used ... it's the network problem ...
-- I couldn't afford to loose calls as I rely on phone calls for business .. :D ...
-- it's the Celcom network problem .. got times I called my friend during office hours ..
-- it wasafternoon ... call him few times ... on Celcom line straight away went to voicemail..
--after few times .. wasting 10 sen each for few times ... I called his office landline ...
-- I straight fire him ... " woooi ... switched off your phone & sleeping in the office-kah..?" ..
-- he said .." where got switched off .. signal full bar-mah.." .. then I told him called him - straight enter to voicemail-liao... then he tried called his Celcom 019 using his office phone ...
-- he said same it went to voicemail straight away ... then he swithced off and on the phone ..
-- he called again then only get thro ... I said .. "that's Celcom problem-lah .."
-- the system sleep already-lah ... had to switch on & off the phone to wake them up ... :D ...
-- so nothing wrong with the phone .. it's the Celcom network problem...

-- it happened a lot of time also when I was using 010-4446060 last time ...
-- can call out ... cannot call in ...phone the network techincian ... asked me to switch off ..
-- for 5 mintutes then swithed on again ... still not working ...
-- called them until the 4th time only ok ... really teruk -lah ...
-- until I fired them ... how many times I had to switch on & off before can settle my problem .. :mad: ..
-- so finally cut off the Celcom line after 2001 ... really fed up with their service...

idle-jam

15-12-03, 17:48

uncle's longest thread. haha

ceo684

15-12-03, 21:04

a few questions: it's 010 number, unca' bdl? ZERO ONE ZERO rite?
using those motor oil size atur handsets kah? hehe..nowadays the celcom old time prob as bdl says.....has been transferred to maxis (in central zone especially) in 2003...

erm..technical explanation..central zone has 2-4 HLR switches. other zone (nothern, southern) oni got 1-2 HLR switches. Of cos got in/out call congestion prob la...all on one machine/system...not forgetting that celcom was the first cellular network..better than nothing rite? comparison: jaring oso got prob back in 1993/1995 or so...

mul2506

16-12-03, 02:16

Just wondering, what is the cause of the problem? Full coverage, yet diverted to voicemail..

sk8ter

16-12-03, 03:31

network prob i guess...

amazon2020

16-12-03, 04:21

network prob i guess...

whatever lah... stick to the telco that u think the best and u experience the best.... that's all. besides... all the telcos offers almost the same thing at almost the same price. if you continue arguing which telco offers the best with the lowest rate, the debate wont end. also... if you want something good.. u must have the money and be able to afford it rite? to have everything and the best service.. and still demand the lowest rate, then that person should seriously go to hell and open up his/her own telco company. besides... this is MALAYSIA... where mobile phone tecnhology is still sooooooooooooooooooooo green.... don't perasan lah we are already that advanced when we hear about 3G or all those shit. we are ****ing far behind. sometimes people tend to forget that we are using mobile phone with telcos in MALAYSIA, not telcos in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. just be satisfied with what u get. one more thing... if you are that poor and cannot afford to pay a bit more for a better quality, or can't even afford to buy a starter SIM pack and can't even reload your prepaids... get lost and stop asking... just fly kite and stop dreaming of using a mobile phone. a lot of us here actually must stick to the Phone Booth. duh...

bdl

16-12-03, 10:48

uncle's longest thread. haha

--hah..hah... just want to know how good Celcom is ...maybe they thought ..
--I hadnever used Celcom line before .. I used since the 1st day they stepped
-- in Penang Island ... register my 010-4446060 on 12/10/1990 ... :D ...
-- we que up at Celcom office at 7.30am .. waited for their office to open at 8.30am ...

-- that time most of my custumers were Celcom customers ..
-- some had changes from Celcom 010 to 019 ... after few months .. they come back ...
-- asked me to register one more Maxis line for them ... I asked why ..?
-- they told me the same problem ... signal full .. but their customer complained ..
-- when they called ...always go to voicemail... seems like they never switched on the phone...
-- then kena marah by their customers ... :D ... so now they had both Maxis & Celcom line ..
-- that's why Maxis must thanks Celcom for helping to get customers for them
.. :D ... right ..?

-- most of the my prevoius Celcom 010 customers .. either they go to 012 or 016 ...

chenyc

16-12-03, 11:04

--hah..hah... just want to know how good Celcom is ...maybe they thought ..
--I hadnever used Celcom line before .. I used since the 1st day they stepped
-- in Penang Island ... register my 010-4446060 on 12/10/1990 ... :D ...
-- we que up at Celcom office at 7.30am .. waited for their office to open at 8.30am ...

-- that time most of my custumers were Celcom customers ..
-- some had changes from Celcom 010 to 019 ... after few months .. they come back ...
-- asked me to register one more Maxis line for them ... I asked why ..?
-- they told me the same problem ... signal full .. but their customer complained ..
-- when they called ...always go to voicemail... seems like they never switched on the phone...
-- then kena marah by their customers ... :D ... so now they had both Maxis & Celcom line ..
-- that's why Maxis must thanks Celcom for helping to get customers for them
.. :D ... right ..?

-- most of the my prevoius Celcom 010 customers .. either they go to 012 or 016 ...

Zaman celcom Tajudin Ramli like this 1 la... all lazy. Even now I go to celcom branches in KL, they work so slow. Now zaman Ramli Abbas, see he can change the situation or not in this few years. But I think is hard seeing the Telekom customer service is bad also. :(

Voicemail can't deactivate meh that time? :confused:

ceo684

16-12-03, 11:49

Just wondering, what is the cause of the problem? Full coverage, yet diverted to voicemail..

HLR (home location register) server congested.

ceo684

16-12-03, 11:51

now the situation improved ledi la.....hehehe :P celcom...full bar...no dropped/missed calls... unlike maxis...always drop wan :D u wanna see my boss' 012 bills for year 2003? a lot of REPEATED short calls (dropped often).... in 2003

bdl

16-12-03, 12:04

--hah...hah... either you complained to them ...or like me .. don't like their service ..:rolleyes: ...
-- cut off ...<img src="http://www.pushupstairs.com/images/emoticon/misc/lol.gif">... that's what I did .. :D .. :D ...

ceo684

16-12-03, 14:57

but the best was those digi 6-series curi line :D pay 300 to sum shady dude and can use till credit limit 2000 ...hehehe

chenyc

24-12-03, 18:15

Hope tonite maxis SMS center dun get congested like last year... anyway MERRY CHRISTMAS! :)

ceo684

25-12-03, 12:04

merry xmas!! maxis sms center clogged up at 3-4pm on 24th.

kanchong darat (banting, klang) area no coverage. ceh!

chenyc

25-12-03, 13:35

merry xmas!! maxis sms center clogged up at 3-4pm on 24th.

kanchong darat (banting, klang) area no coverage. ceh!

Yeah, yesterday evening can't send SMS already :( 23/12 till now Delivery Report tarak.

ceo684

26-12-03, 01:37

23/12 till 26/12 (now) tadak report. mebbe maxis' way of lessening congestion... pending pun tadak!

mastereos

26-12-03, 06:53

okie with my 016 :p

chenyc

26-12-03, 14:58

okie with my 016 :p

Sometimes I feel DiGi is better than maxis but the DiGi call quality is the problem.

ceo684

28-12-03, 00:03

Sometimes I feel DiGi is better than maxis but the DiGi call quality is the problem.

wah...u can "feel" wan ar... sixth sense issit? hehehe

chenyc

28-12-03, 10:34

wah...u can "feel" wan ar... sixth sense issit? hehehe

No la. Base on my friend's experience la. :D Then I can feel it lor.

ceo684

29-12-03, 00:01

dunno...maxis lags anywhere from 0 lag to 2 hr lag (especially with 6series #)...digi oso - 3 series no lag, 6 series got noticeable lag (0 lag to 6+hrs aka next day reply come)

chenyc

29-12-03, 13:48

dunno...maxis lags anywhere from 0 lag to 2 hr lag (especially with 6series #)...digi oso - 3 series no lag, 6 series got noticeable lag (0 lag to 6+hrs aka next day reply come)

2 and 3 series is for KL and 6 series is for Melaka/Negeri Sembilan/Johor(Muar). I saw at the celcom prepaid starter pack they wrote like this. Dunno true or not. 9 series of maxis central sometimes lag also. Some people dislike 6 and 9 series because bocor already they use prepaid. :p

New maxis postpaid GPRS charges:
Enjoy up to 1MB FREE GPRS usage until 4 Jan 2004. From 5 Jan 2004 onwards, GPRS usage will be charged 1.5sen per kb. To enjoy better GPRS rates, you can subscribe to any of the GPRS packages below: a) GPRS 1MB Package (Pay RM10/month for 1MB usage) b) GPRS 5MB Package (Pay RM40/month for 5MB usage) c) GPRS 20MB Package (Pay RM100/month for 20MB usage) To subscribe to the GPRS packages, call 1 800 82 1000 today. Also, introducing new MMS promo prices from 5 Jan 2004 onwards: a) Domestic Picture Message (Pay RM0.50 per message sent) b) International Picture Message (Pay RM1.50 per message sent

New rate for Hotlink GPRS charges will be announce later. ;)

ceo684

29-12-03, 18:35

6 series maxis is prepaid meh? Din noe that...ehehehe...but celcom got 6 series postpaid.. 9 series 012 memang bocor dee la... kekee

yeap the 2 KL; 3 SL, 6 MLK is true...just check the itemised bill on a postpaid.. somehow dats y i always try to get 012-3... prepaid.

019-2, -3, and -6 no lag problem AFAIK. It doesnt have the 6 series lag prob.... dunno y maxis lags in the 6 and 9s..

chenyc

01-01-04, 02:08

maxis can't call out starting new year eve 8pm. My house area start network busy. Arrive at Bintang Walk, can't call and SMS. Even check balance also cannot. waseh... :(

amazon2020

01-01-04, 12:08

maxis can't call out starting new year eve 8pm. My house area start network busy. Arrive at Bintang Walk, can't call and SMS. Even check balance also cannot. waseh... :(

i am proud to tell that i am using CELCOM and everything was ok yesterday (new years eve). although a bit difficult to call or send sms... but it was not as bad and as almost impossible as MAXIS. aiyah but nevermind lah.. i know some MAXIS ass licker will come in and tell a different grandfather story. well... u maybe already know who that person is...

cyberkid

02-01-04, 10:35

According 2 sum of my frens, they choose maxis juz 4 one reason ... more "class" than the other becoz it is 0-1-2 .... :D A nice number probably, who knows? Maybe the next generation 3-4-5 will rule :o

ceo684

02-01-04, 14:16

celcom at 2330-0030 can call n send ...but a lil hard...sms need to ANGKAT HP TINGGI TINGGI!!! a la 013 users in 2001/2002 on normal days...hehe

maxis (012-314xxxx) cannot work. I was in Times Sq aroun 9, and then to cheras. At 0000 cannot do anything. BTW i loved it... can show how "GOOD" maxis is....it's either connectiion error OR network busy...lol....can do a betting session on wic error pops up dee... lol... 0030 baru can sms...

Digi.....haih....160 char sms, 140+ arrived with sum txt missing. Then the 20 chars arrived much later. Sucks!

0.1.2.N.E.T.W.O.R.K.B.U.S.Y.O.R.D.O.E.S.N.T.W.O.R. K.A.T.A.L.L - Mana ada class? sekarang 019 chun # barulah "class"!

cos nowadays 6699 ending prepaid# is hard to find...and harder to register ledi...cos postpaid 6699 is only for the expensive 200/mth plans

PS. maxis ass licker went down to KL ar? i tot he's much higher up north eh?

ceo684

02-01-04, 14:18

the only way to call 012 on NY04 eve in KL is to whip out my $10 Kadfon and use it... to call 012-655xxxx.

cyberkid

02-01-04, 19:56

tribulaz

02-01-04, 20:26

crazy... this is a biased poll!
In fact Maxis is the best.

ceo684

03-01-04, 02:08

Digi.....haih....160 char sms, 140+ arrived with sum txt missing. Then the 20 chars arrived much later. Sucks!
Ei....beyond prepaid happens this all the way? or happens occasionally ONLY?
And now all telco maximum char is 160 only ar? Why my phone (Nokia 2100) can type up to 459 chars ler?
And 1 more Q, Digi international SMS how much?

Digi got prob at NY eve... normally quite OK, sumtimes lagging
160 = max for 1 SMS
161 = charged as 2 SMS
459 = charged as 3 SMS

Intl SMS price? call digi n ask la....016 22 11 800.....so ez... :p

ceo684

03-01-04, 02:08

i know some MAXIS ass licker will come in and tell a different grandfather story. well... u maybe already know who that person is...

well... the first 012 ass licker in was a wrong guess for me :p hehehe

tribulaz u sure? or u lifeless peepz never even went down to KL Bintang Walk on 31.12.03? Just sleepin at home issit? :p pls dun tok grandpa story la. Just ask my fren Angel for example. 8pm TODAY, just 1 day 20hrs into the yr 2004, line very bad. She's in Klang at the time of call, I was on celcom (N3610 loud n clear hp). She cant hear me properly - what a joke...this maxis....

if u dun have 2 hps running 012 and 019 each, and use the phone like >200-300 per mth, pls dun crap la....go use 012 la....and suffer...lol...muahahahaa

biased poll? it's public ma...and its a fact that certain telco starting with letter M just plain sucks

ceo684

03-01-04, 02:09

also....forgot to mention around 2.30-3.00 maxis 0~1 bar in my hse this very afternoon. Normally 3~4 bar. ***. Cant even have decent signal.

amazon2020

03-01-04, 20:18

also....forgot to mention around 2.30-3.00 maxis 0~1 bar in my hse this very afternoon. Normally 3~4 bar. ***. Cant even have decent signal.

i'm also proud to tell about how good is celcom after its merged with tmtouch. after all the previous sufferings in low yat plaza especially at compuzone to get any signal, yesterday i sat and waited patiently for my new pc at compuzone with full bar... why? becoz it roamed automaticly to tmtouch. does poor maxis have any technology like this after merge with timecell? i guess no. well, three letter idiot mr. maxis ass licker, i know u always have something stoopid to say to keep ur pure deep shit maxis on top. well... puke it out. we all need to hear it.

chenyc

03-01-04, 20:39

amazon2020

03-01-04, 22:37

waseh... ceo684 want to berlagak with his celcom already... haha... :D

I agree with ceo684. maxis now tak ada class lagi ler... last time said upgrade... i dunno they want to upgrade what... still the same in new year eve. :(

GPRS macam tipu orang. motorola tarak setting punya. Deduct RM10 for GPRS activation fees DiGi and celcom(WAP) free activation ler.

aiseh... since when does maxis has any class? i have already used celcom for such a long long time... no problem one. to hell goes mr. three letter maxis ass licker grandfather stories of sons, daugthers, second third fourth wives & friends experience with 019. the problem is here in my f a r k i n g house, all FIVE of my family members are using celcom, and no problem at all. and one more thing, NORTHPORT CORPERATION BERHAD (NCB), the place where my dad works, gives 019 a.k.a celcom numbers to all their managing board staff, including my dad becoz why? becoz NCB is among the heart of Malaysia, if anything goes wrong in NCB, we can all start eating sardines and ubi kayu. mr. three letter maxis ass licker won't agree with this becoz he thinks his handphone selling business is much more important to malaysia compared to the business of the number 1 port in malaysia. i am not going to exaggerate here, but my dad has 30+ years experience in port business, from overseas to penang, sabah sarawak, johore, and now port klang northport, so i know how important is a port to a country like us. all the important personnel in NCB must be able to communicate without any problems, anytime, anywhere, even from sabah and sarawak, and hell yeah, NCB does have branches overseas, and the people who work there, ONLY, i mean ONLY prefers to use use 019, and that's hell yeah, CELCOM. CELCOM's international roaming... the best. so mr. three letter maxis ass licker, u see when i say i know celcom is good, i have plenty to talk about, not like u dumb going-to-die old man, u only have the same story all the damn time.

amazon2020

03-01-04, 22:43

chenyc

03-01-04, 23:55

mul2506

04-01-04, 01:01

Haha.. i guess Celcon is the winner now.. A lot of people have been fooled by maxis' branding. Maxis is only good at building their image.. The real gem is Celcom..

amazon2020

04-01-04, 02:00

Haha.. i guess Celcon is the winner now.. A lot of people have been fooled by maxis' branding. Maxis is only good at building their image.. The real gem is Celcom..

yeah. i agree with u :)

cyberkid

04-01-04, 10:02

How about compare Celcom with DiGi?
Which one better?

ceo684

05-01-04, 23:43

i'm glad that u know who is the 'three letter mr. maxis ass licker'. aiseh. i hear a voice telling me to stop. hey... relax lah whoever it is. siapa makan cili.. dia rasa pedas :)

hehe...always rely on muh intuition...kekeke....thats how to play around in skool long time ago and still perfect result...hehe

ceo684

05-01-04, 23:46

I at Cheras 2000 have start network busy ler. When arrive at Pudu, can't call already. :(

Are u sure? DiGi SMS separately arrive at recipent's phone? First time heard ler. :D

On Thurs, I went celcom branch in Menara TR to help my colleague recharge his celcom. Waseh. At there got PC to online, magazine, newspaper and some useful brochures for their customers for waiting. At maxis centre Ampang Point, no such things. I think maxis KLCC branch also dun have such thing. Express payment machince to collect "hutang" have la.

Wah...u went all the way to menara TR? muz be close to da building...if not any petrol stsn epay machine oso can...hehe

U wan to see? meet u sumwhere...lolz :D

1st msg: long blabla bla.... *some text missing*
2nd msg *some text missing* love ya..take care!!

Maxis center in klcc? looks like some kind of post office.. no system at all, damn messy from first impression. summore not open on whole sunday and sat evenings...sucks...dowan 2 do business dont do la...shut down and play with the measats

ceo684

05-01-04, 23:50

How about compare Celcom with DiGi?
Which one better?

OMG...
clearly da best is celcom la...maxis today 012-3 call 019-2 in Klang, very very high signal, sounds like a broken record. maxis cannot be counted upon in emergencies now. The simpacks should always be ultra expensive for maxis so dat not many ppl use ("more exclusive") means less congestion.

digi oni if u cant really get a celcom nice #.. tell u wat.. ABCC is a free pattern (ie no special # charge). digi is oni good for smsing cos its 15c. but sms always seem to delay/have prob sending.

conclusion: just take celcom

anyone want used celcom xceed/xplore? got dbl dbl, nice #s. need to liquidate em cos im using postpaid...dowanna maintain so many #s...hehe

cyberkid

06-01-04, 22:52

digi oni if u cant really get a celcom nice #..

Sorry, wht do u mean by "#" ?
SMS got problem? Mine so smooth, and now the beyond prepaid calling so clear n never low signal in my place(4/4 bars)...so satisfied with Digi beyond ler.....

Celcom? Still new to it, can u post up the calling , sms rates here?

ceo684

06-01-04, 23:13

# = number
AT = Airtime (talktime)

i feel that the SMS for 2 and 6 series digi is sometimes delayed. But 3 series digi no prob.

Celcom prepaid
a) Xplore $48 simpack
- $30 talktime FOC
- $15 SMS FOC
- call rates 58/38c for local calls
- offpeak 0000-0700
- stay 4-5 mths with it, get 5% free Airtime; 6-12 mth 10% AT FOC, >12mths 15% AT FOC
- everytime you reload, you will get like $50 rld = $3 SMS FOCl rld 100 get 7.50 SMS FOC; 200 will get $18 SMS FOC

b) Celcom Xceed (RRP $98 or 128)
- $50 airtime (98 pack) or 70AT (128 pack)
- $3 SMS FOC
- no reload bonus but 45c flat call rate all day long (24/7 @ 0.45c)
- recharge bonus of 10/15/20percent (same as Xplore stay bonus monthly timing)

Celcom POSTPAID (CONTRACT)

a) Ezy plan
- 30c call rate
- $25 access fee/mth if usage below 125
- NO ACCESS FEE if usage more than 125

b) Chat plan
- no access fee, just that u pay 125/mth minimum (like maxis' package 138/238 where u pay 138/238 per month regardless of whether u use $5 or $150)
- Free 50 SMS - $7.50 value per month

For ALL Celcom 019 PREPAID AND POSTPAID, SMS rates are:
15 c 019-019
20 c 019-012/3/6/7

ceo684

07-01-04, 00:39

Sorry, wht do u mean by "#" ?
SMS got problem? Mine so smooth, and now the beyond prepaid calling so clear n never low signal in my place(4/4 bars)...so satisfied with Digi beyond ler.....

Celcom? Still new to it, can u post up the calling , sms rates here?

the incoming SMS (sent FROM 016, TO 019) sometimes delayed :rolleyes:

chenyc

07-01-04, 17:14

My workplace near Menara TR mah. Reload Rm20 e-pay have meh? Oh.. I've receive this 016 message long time ago. Thought my handset got problem that time :rolleyes:

My friend use his TMTOUCH to enter Astro contest. Waseh. Today 0900 sent, tomorrow 0900 baru the questions arrive although Delivery report status "Delivered". haha... :p use maxis,DiGi no problem. TMTOUCH SMS center memang have problem ler.

The celcom prepaid check balance 2888/2889 after 7pm, delay ler. Have to wait 10-20 minutes baru the balance arrive.

Dunno why. This few days I using my 012 to call DiGi number, hard to call. :( call to 017 lagi teruk, disconnected few times. :mad: suddenly line putus, phone display "network busy" :eek:

ceo684

07-01-04, 22:15

calling to 012/017 always problem wan.. kena voicemail...expensive arr!!

TMtouch? sms always under capacity...long time grandfather story prob

peak hr ma....dats y bal check delay...try calling "1930p1p1p1"

chenyc

08-01-04, 18:05

Yesterday nite I want to call my friend using DiGi. Call 9-10 times, finally connected. I ask, "u off the phone ar?" Then reply "no ar." I ask "Ada berapa bar line?" She say "Full, 4 bar". Waseh... 4 bar can't call in??? :confused: after 12 midnite, can't call DiGi number langsung. Network busy. maxis so lousy nowadays. :(

cyberkid

08-01-04, 21:20

You mean Maxis or Digi lousy ?

chenyc

09-01-04, 08:55

maxis is lousy. :)

idle-jam

09-01-04, 09:07

maxis is lousy. :)

maxis reception in penang is very good. can consider the best. even in north south highway too. digi arent that good.

but in sungei wang, on new year eve, the whole network went kaput i think. cant sms, cant call. sms all delays. my gf's celcom was working nicely. i think it's better you have 1-2 telco's line ready. one may not be the best of everything. but thank god, there is this thing call public phone. =_

leejshing

09-01-04, 11:21

maxis reception in penang is very good. can consider the best. even in north south highway too. digi arent that good.

but in sungei wang, on new year eve, the whole network went kaput i think. cant sms, cant call. sms all delays. my gf's celcom was working nicely. i think it's better you have 1-2 telco's line ready. one may not be the best of everything. but thank god, there is this thing call public phone. =_

maxis always lousy at holiday even, like dec31 night 11.30pm to 12.00!
lansung cannot sms!

my h/p from 1jan to 3jan langsung don have sms report.
i don know my friend see my sms or not!

on normal day! maxis is good, but very expensi la maxis!!!! :mad:

ceo684

09-01-04, 13:21

chenyc

09-01-04, 13:41

on normal day, 2nd Jan 2004, at 8.30 pm, offpeak hour... very bad line... call 019-280 (mine) to 012-9 series...like cannot hear...i shouting in muh phone she still say cannot hear... bengang

maxis sucks. i truly and honestly cant help but agree.
btw why timecel got no *122# or *127#? have to call 1777 to check balance...sucks.... at least celcom got send sms to 2888 to chk bal. timecel all voice operated system. haih.

as a telco hardware "insider" ;) i noe dat celcom can handle like 300 SMS/second per HLR-SMSC pipe...and there are a few of them, dun worry, but maxis i believe only 128 SMS/sec per HLR-SMSC "connection/pipeline"... Summore not many HLR server in Klang Valley.. i tink 1-2 less than celcom.

Delivery report not neccessary for 019 cos celcom's sms service is reliable... on postpaid, u dun get charged for accidentally sending to #s that dun exist (not in service aka terminated). Saved like ten bucks or more on those sms to ghost #s (terminated #s)...hehe

celcom can get delivery report manually. Enter *n# in the first 3 word of your message. Then, SMS center will send u delivery report with ref number. celcom can't automatically send report. If have, it still pending although the receiver received the message.

Because 9 series last time is not Central number. Sometimes memang have voice quality problem. It is normal.

maxis sengaja off the delivery report on 26/12/2003 till 5/1/04 to avoid service center congestion.

ceo684

09-01-04, 13:59

chenyc : thanks for da delivery rpt thingy!! ;) thanks so much ...love ya ...hehehehe

chiahwang

09-01-04, 18:39

Try to use DiGi cause DiGi is giving many benefits

chenyc

09-01-04, 19:44

ANNOUNCEMENT: New Bill on Demand (BOD) service

Dear customer, our SMS on Bill Summary has been upgraded. To get info on your latest bill, type BOD and send to 2100.

Effective 29-DEC-03, SMS on Bill History is no longer applicable (for Celcom 013 only).

http://www.celcom.com.my/xtras/019/bill_payment/index.html

Maybe useful to u too ceo684 ;)

DiGi now can catch up maxis in the prepaid sector. But the DiGi coverage is the problem.

ceo684

10-01-04, 00:23

no point... BOD to 2100 costs $0.10...summore it's last month bill...wic i can get for free by calling 3000900, 1 1 1...
the unpaid (unbilled) bal oni can chk thru celcom careline (tok to human) hehehe

now a celcom postpaid+chenyc's nifty lil del.report trick works best... comparable/better than digi :D

digi got more feat. den maxis. just that they need to uprgd the antennas etc.. and put in a few more SMSC servers

ceo684

10-01-04, 00:29

maxis in a building..1st story...klang office...

my fren and his 6610 were seen moving like an idiot oni... later i ask wats da prob...he say maxis no line...i taro him...u see? u see? 6 to 7 bar signal u dare say no line?! use celcom la!! :D made his whole workplace laugh like hell...hehe

raulhong

10-01-04, 03:29

support 012 !!! cheer ...

amazon2020

11-01-04, 13:28

support 012 !!! cheer ...

012 @ MAXIS SUX!

ceo684

11-01-04, 17:32

i second that!!

012 017 MAXIS TIMECEL SUXX

cyberkid

11-01-04, 22:10

Well, i heard a couple of ppl said tht Maxis line is clear compared to Digi, is it true?

chenyc

11-01-04, 23:44

Well, i heard a couple of ppl said tht Maxis line is clear compared to Digi, is it true?

Yes... it's true. Yesterday I went Low Yat Plaza to upgrade my PC. I park my car at B5(lowest). My friend TMTOUCH have line but maxis 1 bar pun tarak. :mad:

amazon2020

12-01-04, 03:56

Yes... it's true. Yesterday I went Low Yat Plaza to upgrade my PC. I park my car at B5(lowest). My friend TMTOUCH have line but maxis 1 bar pun tarak. :mad:

hey hey. tmtouch la kawan. now already celcom. who says celcom sux? only stoopid bdl says so...

sk8ter

12-01-04, 04:36

wahh... okok.. chill chill..

ceo684

12-01-04, 14:09

Well, i heard a couple of ppl said tht Maxis line is clear compared to Digi, is it true?

Nope. I'd say 016 clearer... i make many phone calls in a day, from 019 to 016 is better quality than those to 012. Those to 012 sound like making a phonecall in a oildrum....summore i call one 012-916xxxx .....quality sucks in 4bar area!!!!

chenyc

12-01-04, 20:11

Nope. I'd say 016 clearer... i make many phone calls in a day, from 019 to 016 is better quality than those to 012. Those to 012 sound like making a phonecall in a oildrum....summore i call one 012-916xxxx .....quality sucks in 4bar area!!!!

DiGi sometimes have echo ler. Means what I talk, I can hear my voice in the speaker. In KL, maxis have too many series ler. Last time 2, 3 and 6 series line not berapa OK. This time 9 series have been added to central, no wonder have quality problem.

Sometimes I feel maxis now starting cheating people. The Hotlink Welcome Card Online Submitting Welcome Card they dun say for selected user only. Charge us RM0.15 for the SMS request. :( GPRS RM10 activation fees. I feel so sorry for non-Nokia user. Kena deduct RM10, then can't use. They dun provide GPRS settings for their user. Sony Ericsson and Nokia can get the setting easily. TIMECel line now even worse than before merging. Line always drop. Before merge, TIMECel customer can call Helpline for FOC. SMS Interoperator RM0.15. Now, they suffer. INTERNATONAL SMS RM0.50. Sent 6 SMS can eat nasi lemak ler.

Now my area celcom branch been renovated. Before that, it's a TMTOUCH branch. Behind maxis center only. :D

ceo684

12-01-04, 20:59

chenyc

13-01-04, 17:07

haha... competitors in d same area...lolz
10/mth on celcom 4 sumtin dat works is better den 10/once for things dat dun work....

eh guys...can teach me how to use a freakin 6800 GPRS? like no G even on "always on" setting?

What do u mean 10/mth & 10/once :confused:

U use what network to GPRS? If maxis, I heard people said Nokia 6800 can't GPRS. Not so sure. If celcom, I saw the celcom TV ad a guy using 6800 to GPRS. I think u have to ask the Helpline. :D

ceo684

13-01-04, 20:43

019 POSTPAID GPRS is either 10 or 15 per month fee
012 Hotlink is 10/attempt for enabling GPRS ma...

sumhow... 6800 sucks...hehe

chenyc

14-01-04, 17:30

019 POSTPAID GPRS is either 10 or 15 per month fee
012 Hotlink is 10/attempt for enabling GPRS ma...

sumhow... 6800 sucks...hehe

Then, why u bought 6800? :D New maxis GPRS doesn't so attractive. Speed slow and sometimes can't connect. :(

I test my maxis line to call other. My friend's DiGi have rang, but my maxis phone dun have "tut tut' sound. And when he answer my call, I can't heard what he said. Is it maxis or DiGi fault? I've encounter such problem long time ago.

ceo684

15-01-04, 13:42

oops...4got 2 say its not my 6800...its my fren's wan.... no wonder la..she can use use use till >600, kena barred (postpd) ...lolz :D

019 call 012, o12 cannot hear what o19 says.
dunno bout digi this week...din call digi much dee...but generally 016 no prob dee

chenyc

16-01-04, 09:44

Dear Mr. Chen,

We note your feedback on our new SMS rates.

The previous International SMS charge of RM0.15 was an introductory
offer, which ended on 27 August 2003. The new International SMS charge
is now at RM0.50 per message. The new International charge of SMS rate
is comparable with other local Telecommunication Operators.

Apart of the new International SMS charge, we have reduced the local
SMS charge and IDD rates for calling selected countries.

The following are the rates for IDD and SMS rates offered in our latest
promotion :

1.Local SMS (to Maxis and TimeCell Numbers) is RM0.10 per message
2.International SMS is RM0.50 per message
3.Reduced IDD call charge to selected countries.
4.Maxis to other Telco Operators SMS is RM0.20 per message
5.Maxis to download request is RM0.15 per message

There is no surcharge of RM0.30 imposed to Hotlink customers when
making an IDD call.

For more information on Maxis Premium IDD and SMS rates, log on to
http://www.maxis.com.my/personal/latest/premiumidd.asp

We thank you for your valuable comments and the time you have taken to
share your feedback with us. We assure you we take such feedback
seriously as it is through these feedback that we are able to improve
our services.

Should you have any further queries, do call our Contact Centre at 1
300 820 120 or email us at customercare@maxis.com.my. We look forward to
your continued support.

Yours sincerely,
Aniza Zainal
Customer Services

SMS rate is competitive??? :confused: celcom, TMTOUCH, DiGi send International SMS how much? RM0.15-0.20 right?

ceo684

16-01-04, 10:33

Wa....u so fast can get a response? My long list of questions still not answered since March 26, 2003 u noe!!!

i tink its 20c for celcom....cos i sent to singapore a couple times, didnt cut throat as far as i noe...

chenyc

17-01-04, 15:16

Please be inform that SMS delivery report notifications will not be available during the festive period of 20/01/04 - 23/01/04. Sorry for the inconvenience.

maxis tak malu. people DiGi dun have such problem. delivery report ada tak ada, delay juga(like last time Christmas and New Year) :mad: Last time they said upgrade, I dunno they upgrade what. Downgrade have la.

ceo684

17-01-04, 23:34

Try to use DiGi cause DiGi is giving many benefits

used aledi... last time 016-3610907... the old old $98 (8k sim)....very leceh to use. then sold it off to a fren cheap in 2003 at $30. Then gatal gatal want to use 016 again.. bought a 016-640111x from raulhong.. worked great... (but i still kenot figure out how ur sis [or u, raul] can get the metal box into such a rotten condition...hehehe....like a car run over it....lol) then sold off to someone else.

Digi prepaid ok la...but a lot of ppl scold me why u off ur phone issit? Cos i travel by trains often, everyday also kena taroh lidat tak syok la....so i used back my celcom as primary line.

Best telco for a SPECIAL functions:
TMtouch inTM 013-66474xx $50 preloaded type = best SIM card. 250 phonebook and 40 SMS storage (yes, forty) free from canon...cos i bought a scanner dat time.

chenyc

18-01-04, 18:47

used aledi... last time 016-3610907... the old old $98 (8k sim)....very leceh to use. then sold it off to a fren cheap in 2003 at $30. Then gatal gatal want to use 016 again.. bought a 016-640111x from raulhong.. worked great... (but i still kenot figure out how ur sis [or u, raul] can get the metal box into such a rotten condition...hehehe....like a car run over it....lol) then sold off to someone else.

Digi prepaid ok la...but a lot of ppl scold me why u off ur phone issit? Cos i travel by trains often, everyday also kena taroh lidat tak syok la....so i used back my celcom as primary line.

Best telco for a SPECIAL functions:
TMtouch inTM 013-66474xx $50 preloaded type = best SIM card. 250 phonebook and 40 SMS storage (yes, forty) free from canon...cos i bought a scanner dat time.

Saw your DiGi number auction also. :)

ceo684

19-01-04, 14:36

hehe...it's a small world ;)

chenyc

20-01-04, 17:03

Today 20/01/2004, really dun have delivery report. Tak syok la. My friend using all Hotlink want to change to DiGi. They said maxis GPRS dun stable. Sometimes connection lost/drop. Some said the International SMS cekik darah.

The latest Hotlink TV ad so menyampah. :mad:

ceo684

21-01-04, 12:18

chenyc

21-01-04, 15:30

hmph....yala...
actually...from the start, maxis was ok....then they sold the prepaid packs so damn cheap....everyone buy....overload the system... u noe wat will happen la...congestion etc..

celcom delivery report (manual type) works like a charm...heheheh

celcom gprs is not bad on a 6610...but expensive to use more than a few times...lolz...

After merge with network with TIMECel, the network is bad already. Yesterday nite my friend can't check his balance. SMS delay yesterday midnite.

celcom GPRS have package right? The celcom delivery report some people dunno the secret to get it. haha... :D

ceo684

23-01-04, 00:19

heheh...the delivery report secret is a very good one though :D

timecel....oni thing good is still can sms a few days after reload expiry ;)

ceo684

23-01-04, 00:26

yeap...celcom gprs got 2 packages:
a) 10/mth, i tink about 20c per kb
b) 15/mth, only 10c/kb

chenyc

23-01-04, 16:33

heheh...the delivery report secret is a very good one though :D

timecel....oni thing good is still can sms a few days after reload expiry ;)

As I know, when we SMS using TIMECel, they system dun directly deduct the money from the account. So, we can still send SMS although that time the balance remain RM0.20. :p I think maxis will try to work out to follow the Hotlink system.

ceo684

23-01-04, 23:57

hopefully not... i still like timecel system... the voice in the 1777 announcing balance system clearer than maxis punya 122

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24-01-04, 10:11

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chenyc

24-01-04, 11:17

hopefully not... i still like timecel system... the voice in the 1777 announcing balance system clearer than maxis punya 122

I shocked man... :p suddenly got 1 women said "Huh, pls topup your TIMECel 017 prepaid topup card to topup your a/c, to avoid any service interuption". Yeah. I think like that also. The Hotlink women talking too slow. :mad: YOUUUR BALLLLAANCCE IIISSS... :p

ceo684

24-01-04, 16:10

hahaha....now oni noe ah? :D

ceo684

25-01-04, 18:56

cyberkid: what the heck are you doing 3 posts up? Spamming?!

chenyc

25-01-04, 20:25

cyberkid: what the heck are you doing 3 posts up? Spamming?!

Actually cyberkid post is a Chinese. The word contains "Tse Tse Le" means thank you. :)

How much if I want to add a Chinese software to a 3210 that can support Chinese languages? And how much a 3330 LCD? My friend ask a shop. The shop said is RM100++ because the LCD is animated. Not like the 3310 normal LCD. Is it true? :confused:

ceo684

26-01-04, 01:12

hmm...
chinese SW to a 3210? about $20~25 kua...smile, talk nicely to da dude in low yat booth... preferably make him feel "big" so dat prices are cheap...or buy a flasher cable and DIY (a bit leceh).

3330 LCD = 3310 LCD. No difference. $20~25 for the LCD, labour charge about 10~20.... try asking around, I think u can get it done about $30-35 kua if ur lucky...be nice to da dude in the shop/booth :D

chenyc

27-01-04, 19:50

ceo684

28-01-04, 15:24

No prob. :)

chenyc

29-01-04, 15:27

I've login to maybank2u today and I saw the notice saying that TIMECel 017 reload not available after 31st January 2004. It's a big blow to the 017 user. :(

bdl

29-01-04, 17:12

--heh...heh... from 16th February on wards ... TimeCel reload using Hotlink coupon...
-- no more Timecel coupon ... :cool: ;) :D ....

idle-jam

29-01-04, 18:01

--heh...heh... from 16th February on wards ... TimeCel reload using Hotlink coupon...
-- no more Timecel coupon ... :cool: ;) :D ....

hotlink coupon not available in maybank2u :( only rhbONLINE. haiz ..

davidkwang

30-01-04, 00:01

when gonna have 015? :D

bdl

30-01-04, 10:12

--hah...hah... maybe coming soon ... 3rd generation = 3G ... ;) :cool: :D .....

idle-jam

30-01-04, 10:13

when gonna have 015? :D

once heard that YTL group has to license to operate a telco, and 015 is reserved for them, but till no news. maybe rumours only ..

ceo684

30-01-04, 13:10

chenyc

30-01-04, 13:35

ceh...using maxis coupon...aih.. not nice la....017 coupons more attractive..hehe..

so...what'll happen to the $20 timecel coupons? also...why isnt maxis issuing more 017-2/3/6 series #s instead of problematic 012-9xx's? Selection very limited.. :(

TIMECel card sometimes have F1 driver. Ralf, Montoya, Raikkonen. But Hotlink card just got the stupid logo only. :mad:

012 2/3/6 series have out already. Just now I went maxis center in Cheras, they got sell the 6 series. Just bought 2 series number for my friend from athlon for RM50 only. :)

chenyc

30-01-04, 19:50

Hotlink new SIM pack at buysell RM50-60 only.

http://auc.buysell.com.my/Auc/List/DetailSale.asp?ProductID=691799

http://auc.buysell.com.my/Auc/List/DetailSale.asp?ProductID=686887

Why so cheap? :confused: Outside selling RM68.

:)

amazon2020

30-01-04, 20:13

TIMECel card sometimes have F1 driver. Ralf, Montoya, Raikkonen. But Hotlink card just got the stupid logo only. :mad:

012 2/3/6 series have out already. Just now I went maxis center in Cheras, they got sell the 6 series. Just bought 2 series number for my friend from athlon for RM50 only. :)

biasa la tu... hotlink a.k.a. maxis memang bodoh macam unta

idle-jam

30-01-04, 20:22

biasa la tu... hotlink a.k.a. maxis memang bodoh macam unta

mind your language please.

ceo684

31-01-04, 01:36

mind your language please.

memang pun... susah nak call...always kena voicemail....stupid network - kalau dapat call pun sound like broken walkie talkie..

chenyc

31-01-04, 17:14

memang pun... susah nak call...always kena voicemail....stupid network - kalau dapat call pun sound like broken walkie talkie..

That is depend on the area. My house is OK but in my friend's new housing area, the call quality is poor. :( Sometimes 1-2 bar line only.

kevyeoh

02-02-04, 14:51

in penang...016 and 012 and also 017 like all same only...maybe 012 reception slightly better...

yesterday my 017 didnt have any signal in klang town. dat time i din haf transport. panicked!! maybe someone mess with my num (report stolen etc). fine. all i noe at dat time was 012 screwed up. then i used my trusty ring ring card to call.

so finally i got home, changed the sim to a real 012 hotlink ....still no signal!!!!! then i test the 9210 with 019 ..full signal as usual..no prob..

actually this problem i ledi jangka will happen (LP concert overload)..

this is the 3rd time (or more) 012 has performed badly. 1st was that time when central number hard to call in/out. 2nd was last 2 months or so, whole puchong area no coverage. bengang. 3rd was this....kinda looking forward to the 4th one since 012 so lousy...heh heh heh heh

ceo684

03-02-04, 19:28

in penang...016 and 012 and also 017 like all same only...maybe 012 reception slightly better...

Hahahahahahahaha....

When 012 and 017 is running solely on the 012 network, I don't see how it can be slightly better - unless, of course, you're comparing maxis and digi :D

chenyc

04-02-04, 14:37

Hahahahahahahaha....

When 012 and 017 is running solely on the 012 network, I don't see how it can be slightly better - unless, of course, you're comparing maxis and digi :D

Yalor... after combine with 017, the network more worse. U still remember the maxis TV ad saying that maxis ot line in the lift and have EFR codec that no matter how is the environment is, the line is still clear.

I think the TIMECel 017 postpaid will migrate to other network because maxis change the policy. Before integration, TIMECel 017 prepaid can use WAP and call Helpline for FOC, but now can't already. TIMECel postpaid can use VAS service w/out any monthly charges (Call Divert, Call Waiting, Voicemail, WAP) but now maxis suddenly tarik balik the services. :( Now the reload system is gonna be combined. I think in the few years, maxis still like this, customer will lari. Shuting down the 017 network. They said if want to use WAP/GPRS, get a new maxis 012 line, it's like "FORCE" people to use maxis. They dun think about the user with only GSM1800 frequency phone. Although celcom and TMTOUCH is same now but they dun simply shuting down TMTOUCH.

Prepaid compairision

maxis Hotlink
Preloaded airtime RM50 (RM10 for welcome card)
Validity period 60 days.
SMS to maxis RM0.10 other RM0.20 international RM0.50 SMS to email RM0.15
GPRS activation fees RM10 and download settings at least RM0.15 for requesting

celcom Xplore
Preloaded airtime RM30 (RM10 for welcom card) + RM15 SMS
Validity period 30 days.
SMS to celcom 019 RM0.15 other RM0.20 International RM0.20 SMS to email RM0.10
WAP ready (will have GPRS in the near future) and setting FOC

DiGi beyond
Preloaded airtime RM20
Validity period 30 days
SMS to all network including International RM0.15
GPRS/WAP FOC activation and download settings FOC (if sent via web or by helpline consultant)

With this comparison. maxis really cekik darah. :mad:

ceo684

05-02-04, 00:54

oh...insider tip: certain 017 prepaid got free 50/mth till today...cos it was used on 1800-only phone at the time of merging...so they give rebate...hehehehe.... i got 2 pre-merge (pre 2003) 017 prepd's, only one got this "promotion" thingy...

chenyc

05-02-04, 16:58

ceo684

06-02-04, 13:50

no...i dun mean the $100 reload u get $30 free promo recently.. i mean the one where dinosaur-phone-users get a cheap (50% off i think) 3310 offer and a rebate of $50 a month!!!! :D

chenyc

13-02-04, 11:28

no...i dun mean the $100 reload u get $30 free promo recently.. i mean the one where dinosaur-phone-users get a cheap (50% off i think) 3310 offer and a rebate of $50 a month!!!! :D

017 Prepaid Service Integration 13 February 2004

Dear 017 Prepaid Customer,

To ensure you’re enjoying the best prepaid package available, we’re integrating 017 Prepaid services with Hotlink. With the upgrade in our services, you will experience changes to some of the current services from 24 February 2004.

Note: Please remember to use ONLY Hotlink top up cards on 24 February 2004 onwards to top up your accounts.

For more information on other changes, click here.

Thank you.

Take note:

You will no longer able to call 1777. You will have to call 122 to check your account balance and top up

You will not be able to utilize the TIMECel reload cards and we will not be able to refund to you the cost of the reload card.

http://www.hotlink.com.my/017_prepaid_migration.htm

ceo684

14-02-04, 00:18

hah...what the F***...........
maxis ...see la....really cutthroat b**tard of a company!

ceo684

14-02-04, 00:18

also...dunno whether got *122# function for 017?!

chenyc

14-02-04, 17:41

maxis want to control everything. I think many TIMECel 017 customer will lari if the rebate maxis tarik balik(that means no bonus at all using maxis 012/017). What a pity. :(

I saw NST today that celcom can't receive and makes call yesterday afternoon at Bangsar and Sg Besi area. Also have user saying that yesterday maxis SMS have problem. The user sent 1 SMS only but the receiver has received many. :p Not only them, me also experienced this kind of situation.

celcom - It's in your hand's
maxis - It's in our hand's :p

ceo684

14-02-04, 19:45

maxis... around 4pm totally fail la...call in/out kenot...klang to KL OR KL to Klang...hafta use 019 :D yeap...repeated sms...u can see my 9210 log - from 012-3 series to my 019-2 series, the same msg arrived like 5-6 times... hahaha

chenyc

14-02-04, 23:19

I am facing dropped lines. Why is this happening?
A: We are upgrading our system and you might face some service interruption. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

I am unable to make any IDD calls. Why?
A: We are upgrading our system and you might face some service interruption. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

SMS X-Cite (Student) pack
We used to pay a lower flat rate and now we have to pay higher. Is Maxis going to refund us?
A: Well, there are pros and cons to this move, we do admit. Let us give you an example.
For local calls, at peak times, you do pay 3 sen higher. But at off-peak times you enjoy 9 sen savings i.e. you used to pay 48 sen but now you only pay 39 sen/minute.
You also still maintain 10sen/sms sent within the same network. When it was just TIMECel, you only enjoyed this when you send messages to a 017 number. Now, with the integration, it is also for messages you send to all your friends holding 012 numbers.
So, we hope you can see the benefits that we have been offering you with this migration and integration of networks.

Do we have MMS/GPRS services after the change?
A: No. These services are not available. Your service remains as per the previous 017 Prepaid services.

Can we request for WAP, GPRS and roaming services just by calling or walk in to your centre?
A: Your service remains as per 017 Prepaid before service integration.

Am I now entitled for all the benefits given to Hotlink subscribers?
A: Your service remains as per 017 Prepaid before service integration

How do I recharge my account?
A: Buy a Hotlink top up ticket. Then, call 122 for IVR (Interactive Voice Recording System) menu to top up. You will have to key in the 14-digit pin number and press hash (#).

Do u believe the FCUK maxis said? Upgrading exercise can cause drop calls??? I think before upgrading also happened liao. All nothing change, change to Hotlink system buat apa? The reload system have to call 122. People celcom and DiGi use phone keypad also can reload la. Stupid. Kelentong betul la :(

ceo684

20-02-04, 23:27

huh. maxis sucks big time. period.

chenyc

21-02-04, 22:07

celcom Ezy Plan looks attractive. My friend have register last month and have Call Divert, Call Waiting, TeleManager Basic and FREE Itemised Billing. ceo684, is this thing free temporary or it is have to pay the monthly fees? The bill have stated the pro rated period. Not like maxis, luan luan charge us. The description have stated where we make the calls. SMS sent info also have. maxis bill not have such thing. The SMS description not stated there and they only write how many SMS have sent. The base station info also dun have. 1st 30 seconds RM0.15.

ceo684

22-02-04, 00:19

Well...the itemised billing is free as long as u take the VAS BASIC package (that is Call Dvt; Call Wtg in one $8/mth package)...

also.. i noticed that Xcel has 15c/min offpeak... hmm... considering a backup Xcel line for offpeak calls...hehe... but netwk access minimum $38/mth (230/6 mths= 38)

Ezy plan if good if u use <125 per mth.
More than 125 (consistently >125) better take chat plan. cheaper long calls ;)

ezy plan was $50 deposit oni till dec 31... also sub line $50 deposit (usually 100)...so i got muhself a sub lorr...more useful...hehe

chenyc

22-02-04, 02:42

The Biz plan is no access fees. Monthly RM200. Free GPRS registration. Free 6 months Stock Info. 9am-5pm RM0.20. Off peak RM0.30.

The Chatz plan is RM125 monthly. Free 3 months Jokes.

The Eazy plan is RM25 access. If call exceed RM125, rebate RM25(that mean 0 access fees). Free jokes everyday.

After getting my last Bonuslink poins, I will change to celcom postpaid.

ceo684

22-02-04, 20:31

if usage >125 but <200 consistently, then u shud take Chat plan - cos it's cheaper for longer calls....services all the same as Ezy plan. Ezy plan actually only good for <100 light users. Heavy users, consistently >200 punya phone bill, better take Biz plan. 20c calls peak time.

chenyc

24-02-04, 09:24

Today's midnite the 017 prepaid has been fully implemented to Hotlink system. Happy to hear that the balance retrieval *122# can also be use. Have to use Hotlink top up card from now on. I think today the Hotlink helpline will be busy. Cause I think not many knows about this. :)

ceo684

25-02-04, 14:43

chenyc

26-02-04, 00:08

aiyah....slow la u :p 8.30 on 24/2/04 ledi can use *122# dee... i tried...works, but very slooooooow :(

yeah horr... maxis DID NOT advertise abt dis timecel kupon tak boleh pakai rite? At least not in the NST paper AFAIK...heheheh...

I 4am 24th Feb 2004 know already. 24th Feb 00:00-0300 they in the implementation process. U dun see my posting time is 09:20 24 Feb 2004? U lagi slow. :D Someone says TIMECel 017 reload card can claim. Dunno true or not. Haha... my friend 017 expired on 15 Feb with airtime RM28++, but maxis extend the access to 24th March 2004 as compensation. So no need topup. :p The *122# memang slow pun. Slow like a turtle.

ceo684

27-02-04, 00:36

eleh... :p
yeah..i agree with u 122 bal check on 017 very sloo...slower than 012 native rite? last time 012 takes 10 secs...this one like 20 secs...yawn

chenyc

28-02-04, 10:37

maxis net profit has rise in the 4th quarter. I still dunno why user still have confident to maxis. They said will target more user outside Klang Valley. I disappointed with maxis. They never cares our opinion at all. Hotlink pack now can be purchase at Projet. I see at the mobile phone seller, still have many SIM pack not been sold. And the very sad thing is, they will be at the Karnival TV3 in Johor Bahru. Refer http://www.hotlink.com.my/level2/hotlevel2.asp?AID=2150 Till when Hotlink so pokai till have to do promotion like this? They want to challenge Telekom and TMnet I think.

bdl

28-02-04, 11:47

hah...hha... what to do ..? now Maxis boss is 2nd richest in Malaysia-mah..? so how you anti -012 also doesn't work-leh... :D :D ....

ceo684

01-03-04, 14:43

hah...hha... what to do ..? now Maxis boss is 2nd richest in Malaysia-mah..? so how you anti -012 also doesn't work-leh... :D :D ....

Oh...ahem....ahem~!
012's BTS'es are linked together by SATELLITE technology rite?

Our MEASAT 1 and MEASAT 2 were cheap satellites (means short lifespan - in this case between 10-15 years).....u calculate la....how long dee since they were launched...and how long more they will last...heheh.....now u see why maxis is trying hard to recoup the $$ they spent on the expensive satellites....all these promotions etc...

whereas the other networks use land-based fiber optic lines to link up their entire network.... dats why just like ur astro service, for the best 012 quality calls, depends on whether its raining onnot... other networks work great regardless of the weather, rain or shine.........

chenyc

02-03-04, 10:52

maxis tak boleh diharap. :mad: I've sent a MMS to my friend but my friend can't receive my MMS. Have eat me RM0.50 per message. I've sent 2, so it's RM1.00. The GPRS have connected, but after a while, the connection lost. What a terrible network I've never seen.

ceo684

03-03-04, 13:55

i totally agree with u....especially when i kena voicemail calling 012 - the phone is on, but kena voicemail many times. maxis SUCKS

chenyc

04-03-04, 14:07

A mobile88 forum member comment on maxis:

Sebar-sebarkan lah.................. Untuk perhatian dan renungan semua pengguna telefon mudah alih.
Semua tahu perkembangan dan pembangunan pesat sistem telefon mudah alih terutama semenjak 10 tahun kebelakangan ini. Kalau dulu penggunaan alat komunikasi canggih ini hanya terbatas kepada golongan tertentu dan hanya terbatas kepada membuat panggilan dan menerima panggilan sahaja. Tapi kini kecanggihannya telah melebihi jangkaan banyak daripada kita. Daripada golongan berjawatan tinggi hingga kepada pelajar2 sekolah, kebanyakanya memiliki dan melanggan perkhidmatan komunikasi mudah alih ini.
Tidak hairan lah kalau syarikat2 pengendali sperti MAXIS, CELCOM, DIGI, TM TOUCH dan lain2 meletakan sasaran 1 atau 2 juta pelanggan baru setiap tahun. Apa yang cuba saya sampaikan sebenarnya adalah apa yang dipanggil "Value Added Services - VAS” seperti Sistem pesanan ringkas (SMS), Sistem pesanan Multimedia (MMS) dan bermacam2 lagi.
Memang tidak dinafikan perkhidmatan nilai tambah seperti ini memang banyak kebaikannya, tapi sedarkah kita sebagai pengguna sekelian disebalik faedah yang terbit hasil dari wujudnya perkhidmatan seperti ini tidak kurang juga dari kita yang terus menerus membazir dalam membelanjakan wang kita.
Sebagai contoh paling nyata Kebelakangan ini kita secara tidak sedar terlalu banyak disogok dengan iklan2 dimedia2 tempatan yang menggalakan kita supaya menyertai pelbagai jenis permainan yang melibatkan SMS spt, Download ring tone, logo dan yang paling terbaru ialah kuiz SMS.
Persoalannya adakah benda2 ini semua memberikan nilai tambah kepada kita sebagai pengguna. Statistik dibawah mungkin dapat mengajar kita bahawa kita ini terlalu suka membazir tanpa berfikir panjang:
Salah satu Kuiz SMS yang dilancarkan oleh satu daripada syarikat pengendali telefon mudahalih baru2 ini telah menunjukkan keputusan seprti dibawah yang diumumkan sendiri oleh syarikat terbabit melalui suratkhabar tempatan:
Hadia utama yg ditawarkan : Proton Satria GTI bernilai RM 68,000.00
Hadiah Kedua : Proton Wira 1.3 GL bernilai RM 43,000.00
Hadiah2 Saguhati : Keseluruhannya bernilai RM 10,000.00
Caj SMS : 15 sen utk setiap SMS yg dihantar 50 sen utk setiap Jawapan yang diterima
Sambutan dari public : Sebanyak 10 juta SMS diterima dari pelanggan ( Kita semua la tu) Secara tak langsung bermakna 10 juta juga jawapan yg dihantar balik kepada pelanggan.
Pendapatan kasar syarikat pengendali :
15 sen X 10 juta SMS = RM 1.5 juta (utk SMS yg dihantar)
50 sen X 10 juta SMS = RM 5 juta (utk setiap jawapan yg diterima)
Pungutan keseluruhan : RM 6.5 Juta ( Dalam masa seminggu kerana kuiz ini dibuka hanya seminggu)
Pendapatan bersih syarikat pengendali : RM 6.5 juta - RM 121, 000.00 (Nilai hadiah) = RM 6.379 juta seminggu.....
WOW!!!!! Ini baru utk satu KUIZ,,,,,dalam pengamatan saya dlm sehari entah berapa jenis KUIZ SMS yang berada dipasaran sekarang, ini beleum termasuk lagi UNDIAN SMS yang sering terpapar kat kaca TV.
Tidak hairanlah kalau T. Ananda Krishnan berada dalam kelompok tiga teratas rakyat Malaysia terkaya setiap tahun. KITA semualah yang menyumbang kepadanya.
Jadi renungkanlah. Semoga kita semuanya tidak terus menjadi masyarakat yg suka membazir

ceo684

06-03-04, 12:10

yeap...even without this quiz stuff, normal smses, there are about 240000-260000 SMSes per day on celcom 019 alone. Not counting the other networks, we can say it's a minimum of $0.15x250000 = $37500 per day from SMSes alone. In one month, celcom gets 37.5Kx30= 1.125 Million ringgit. Add on the calls and VAS, access fees etc, and you'll get a huge figure. Over 2-3 M per month...cool money man.......also i never use the downloads much...and has NEVER ONCE participated in SMS quizzes (bloody exp).

chenyc

06-03-04, 23:40

Yeap... even dun have the SMS quiz... with the normal interoperator SMS they do have big profit.

Check this out ==> http://auc.buysell.com.my/Auc/List/DetailStd.asp?ProductID=757630

Isn't it melampau? The LCD damaged but the price is still high. :(

xchris

07-03-04, 08:52

Have been a 019 user for 2-3 years . Service is bad , signal was very bad at that time due to always calls can't come in despite signal is 2 bars...thats why i switched to 012. Even though I have terminated my service for 019 , 4 years ago and settled all the bills, they keep sending me the monthly statement stating the account credit = RM 0.00 . Man! don't they update their database! What a waste of paper & envelope!!! Called them to tell them but they still send the bloddy statements!!

As for me in (penang) 012 signal has a widest coverage compared to the others. (in my factory, certain parts of the building (where i am most of the time) got no signal except for 012) I have used Maxis international roaming in a few countries and I am satisfied with the line support so far. Another thing, the customer service for Maxis is very efficient.(for me) The only downside for Maxis is their charges is higher than other operators.

After I read this thread, all I can say is some people is are too arrogant & rude. If you think Maxis
service is bad ,thats your right to express it ! but if there are some people who support MAxis thats their right too!! This forum is to share our opinions and not make fun of others who do not share the same opinions...PLS GROW UP YOU IMMATURE PEOPLE! If you think you are smart , there are many who are smarter than you!!

No service is the same every part of Malaysia lar bodo! Use which service that offers the best savings and coverage to you don't force your worthless opinions on others .......BTW don't bully people like BDL... he is just trying to tell his opinions ( I'm not his friend ) Just because Maxis is bad for you doesn't mean that you need to ridicule him !

Yeap... even dun have the SMS quiz... with the normal interoperator SMS they do have big profit.

Check this out ==> http://auc.buysell.com.my/Auc/List/DetailStd.asp?ProductID=757630

Isn't it melampau? The LCD damaged but the price is still high. :(

chenyc

07-03-04, 10:38

Have been a 019 user for 2-3 years . Service is bad , signal was very bad at that time due to always calls can't come in despite signal is 2 bars...thats why i switched to 012. Even though I have terminated my service for 019 , 4 years ago and settled all the bills, they keep sending me the monthly statement stating the account credit = RM 0.00 . Man! don't they update their database! What a waste of paper & envelope!!! Called them to tell them but they still send the bloddy statements!!

As for me in (penang) 012 signal has a widest coverage compared to the others. (in my factory, certain parts of the building (where i am most of the time) got no signal except for 012) I have used Maxis international roaming in a few countries and I am satisfied with the line support so far. Another thing, the customer service for Maxis is very efficient.(for me) The only downside for Maxis is their charges is higher than other operators.

After I read this thread, all I can say is some people is are too arrogant & rude. If you think Maxis
service is bad ,thats your right to express it ! but if there are some people who support MAxis thats their right too!! This forum is to share our opinions and not make fun of others who do not share the same opinions...PLS GROW UP YOU IMMATURE PEOPLE! If you think you are smart , there are many who are smarter than you!!

No service is the same every part of Malaysia lar bodo! Use which service that offers the best savings and coverage to you don't force your worthless opinions on others .......BTW don't bully people like BDL... he is just trying to tell his opinions ( I'm not his friend ) Just because Maxis is bad for you doesn't mean that you need to ridicule him !

Here, this forum is not insulting any of the operator. Maybe some member post their rude/insulting thread in this forum. We just want to say our feelings when using any operator. U use you 019 line in what time? In the 90's? We are not saying that we are smart people. We didn't ridicule/bully people like u say, BDL. We are sometimes trade with him. The rude amazon2020 posting is long time ago and I didn't support his/her words. In the mobile88.com forum, there are still many members saying bad about maxis. If u dun satisfied, u can shoot them back. Please mind your language.

bdl

07-03-04, 13:42

hah..hha... thanks... xchris ... chenyc... for your comment here...
-- yes .. you all can voice out what ever think which operator is bad ..
-- let them read & improved themself ... right ..? but why want to scold people ...
-- especially the language they used ... :D ...
-- I wonder do they know the word called "respect" ...?

ceo684

07-03-04, 20:40

Have been a 019 user for 2-3 years . Service is bad , signal was very bad at that time due to always calls can't come in despite signal is 2 bars...thats why i switched to 012. Even though I have terminated my service for 019 , 4 years ago and settled all the bills, they keep sending me the monthly statement stating the account credit = RM 0.00 . Man! don't they update their database! What a waste of paper & envelope!!! Called them to tell them but they still send the bloddy statements!!

As for me in (penang) 012 signal has a widest coverage compared to the others. (in my factory, certain parts of the building (where i am most of the time) got no signal except for 012) I have used Maxis international roaming in a few countries and I am satisfied with the line support so far. Another thing, the customer service for Maxis is very efficient.(for me) The only downside for Maxis is their charges is higher than other operators.

After I read this thread, all I can say is some people is are too arrogant & rude. If you think Maxis
service is bad ,thats your right to express it ! but if there are some people who support MAxis thats their right too!! This forum is to share our opinions and not make fun of others who do not share the same opinions...PLS GROW UP YOU IMMATURE PEOPLE! If you think you are smart , there are many who are smarter than you!!

No service is the same every part of Malaysia lar bodo! Use which service that offers the best savings and coverage to you don't force your worthless opinions on others .......BTW don't bully people like BDL... he is just trying to tell his opinions ( I'm not his friend ) Just because Maxis is bad for you doesn't mean that you need to ridicule him !

Service is bad...muahaha...what phone u use? 5110 with broken antenna ah?....
Whats ur location (of ur 019 number)? 50 miles out issit?
I dont see how paying a minimum of 4c per minute (for the local call rate) for customer service on 012 prepaid (AND NOW 017 PREPAID ALSO) is either fair or worth it.....especially when EVERYONE ELSE GIVES FREE CUSTOMER SERVICE ON PREPAID AND POSTPAID...... EFFICIENT...HUH... simple thing like unbarring the SMS on 017 also takes one whole day....morning i call, get an idiot who tell me to switch on and off my phone. By night also tak boleh SMS. (3 days before this I reloaded 30 into 2 temporary barrred accounts) Only night time i kena a good cust service dude. In 5 minutes problem settled. THIS INEFFICIENCY SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED. 4 DAYS AFTER RELOAD, BARU BOLEH SMS. ***.
We aint rediculing bdl...he can say what he wants..

chenyc

07-03-04, 23:51

Service is bad...muahaha...what phone u use? 5110 with broken antenna ah?....
Whats ur location (of ur 019 number)? 50 miles out issit?
I dont see how paying a minimum of 4c per minute (for the local call rate) for customer service on 012 prepaid (AND NOW 017 PREPAID ALSO) is either fair or worth it.....especially when EVERYONE ELSE GIVES FREE CUSTOMER SERVICE ON PREPAID AND POSTPAID...... EFFICIENT...HUH... simple thing like unbarring the SMS on 017 also takes one whole day....morning i call, get an idiot who tell me to switch on and off my phone. By night also tak boleh SMS. (3 days before this I reloaded 30 into 2 temporary barrred accounts) Only night time i kena a good cust service dude. In 5 minutes problem settled. THIS INEFFICIENCY SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED. 4 DAYS AFTER RELOAD, BARU BOLEH SMS. ***.
We aint rediculing bdl...he can say what he wants..

Biarlah dia, ceo684. Orang kampung katakan. Maybe he didn't got experience when new year eve bad maxis line here in KL.

xchris

08-03-04, 01:15

[Service is bad...muahaha...what phone u use? 5110 with broken antenna ah?
Thanks for not being sarcastic... :) cmon man is this all u can do ??

you are right i used a 5110 with a boken antenna while using 019 ..but funny i didn't had to change the anttenna to get the extra signal ----i changed to 012 ...!!! funny..he he .... Bdl if i repaired the antenna sure that time got 6 bar....ha ha!

cmon ceo684, I know maxis is bad is your area.. i sympathized... feel very sad ..
so use celcome lar...who is stopping u ?? macam tu pun mau orang ajar ka...

in my area at one time got only 012, 019 and 016 line then one day 016 took away their aerial
for a year !!!so left a lot of disappointed customers.. so is DIGI bad ??? no of course not ! just because a small area is affected not the WHOLE DIGI bad !!! get the message CEO?? maybe he is such an ardent fan of Celcom that he might still subcribe to Celcom even though no line in his area.....ha ha because the logic is Celcom line is the best in Malaysia ?? ada logic ka........

man , if I stay in KL and Maxis line is bad, definately I'm will switch to a better line ...so simple as that.....

By the way if people stupid, want to pay more for lousy line, why get upset ?? no one use your money anyway.........

ceo684

08-03-04, 15:10

if 019 is bad, there's always 013 roaming to fall back on. thats what u call better reliability..

wic part of penang? in the ferry issit? U ingat i bukan orang dari penang ah?

ha! ha! since when 5110 got 6 bar signal?? only 4 bars max...dunno how to see....

I memang was using celcom (4x) maxis (2x) and timecel (2x) since LONG TIME lerr...also tried digi from 1999 to 2001, then again in 2003 (the 016-6401119 which i have since sold off)

btw, I got maxis prepaids, 012-3148xxx and 012-9149xxx, dats why I have the RIGHT TO COMPLAIN/GET UPSET.

the thing is, 012 [and now 017 also] (until now) and 016 (last time early 2002) have INEFFICIENT CUSTOMER SERVICE.

also 017, u tekan wrongly the reload card number ONCE, will block ur acc just like that...have to waste $$ calling the "GOOD" maxis hotline who knows nuts, then i had to call again, baru boleh un-block. WHEREAS 019 U CAN ENTER SALAH RELOAD CARD # 3 TIMES.

PS. I din call anyone stupid, did I? Unlike someone (presumably from the kampung), who blatantly uses the Malay equivalent for "stupid" to describe others as quoted below:

No service is the same every part of Malaysia lar bodo! Use which service that offers the best savings and coverage to you don't force your worthless opinions on others .......BTW don't bully people like BDL... he is just trying to tell his opinions ( I'm not his friend ) Just because Maxis is bad for you doesn't mean that you need to ridicule him !

PS again. Finally this thread made it to 5 pages. :D

xchris

09-03-04, 08:34

since you say the the broken antenna joke, I also say the 6 bar joke....( this fella think only he can be sarcastic ...)

Who cares whether u r in Penang or not? The argument is 012 is good for me and definately not for you....

So if you start the trend in Penang or K.L by going out naked then thats your bussiness you
cannot convinced others to follow you.... same you talk the rubbish about how 012 is bad
but for others it good.. :)

xchris

09-03-04, 08:50

chenyc

09-03-04, 16:56

last advise to you.... if you still insist that Maxis is giving bad service , pls document the evidence
or proof and go to the consumers to complain then I respect you... no point you ramble till a 1000
pages but the story is still the same ... the problems still unsolved..

Yup, xchris. If u also insist that celcom is giving bad servcie, pls document the evidence or proof and go to the cosumers to complain them I also respect on you... no point you also ramble till few pages but the story still is the same ... the problems still unsolved mah..

chenyc

09-03-04, 17:02

since you say the the broken antenna joke, I also say the 6 bar joke....( this fella think only he can be sarcastic ...)

Can share with us the jokes?

Who cares whether u r in Penang or not? The argument is 012 is good for me and definately not for you....

Yeah yeah... 012 is good for u

So if you start the trend in Penang or K.L by going out naked then thats your bussiness you
cannot convinced others to follow you.... same you talk the rubbish about how 012 is bad
but for others it good.. :)

Hmm... if u say he is talking rubbish, then the Hotlink Wassup section(the site that gives 012 user to express their feellings) and mobile88 maxis forum is also talking rubbish.

chenyc

09-03-04, 17:14

cmon ceo684, I know maxis is bad is your area.. i sympathized... feel very sad ..
so use celcome lar...who is stopping u ?? macam tu pun mau orang ajar ka...

I also sympathized to u too... feel very sad... because your celcom line is bad in your area

man , if I stay in KL and Maxis line is bad, definately I'm will switch to a better line ...so simple as that.....

Buat pengetahuan anda, he has changed to celcom line long time ago.

Dun bertekak at here... relax... everybody is happy also, right? :)

ceo684

09-03-04, 18:55

btw, I got maxis prepaids, 012-3148xxx and 012-9149xxx, dats why I have the RIGHT TO COMPLAIN/GET UPSET.

Who said that you have not right to complain? No one said that!! I have always said that everyone has a right to choose the service that is best for you . What I cannot tolerate is, people impose their views on others. The reason why i respond to this thread is because there are some dumbos who likes to be sarcastic to others just because other people think their views are wrong. (read all his replys and you can see all the sarcastic remarks......(broken antenna.....ferry .....etc )

last advise to you.... if you still insist that Maxis is giving bad service , pls document the evidence
or proof and go to the consumers to complain then I respect you... no point you ramble till a 1000
pages but the story is still the same ... the problems still unsolved..

This fella's iQ is very low so I need not say more...

Haha....say my IQ so low when he himself cannot even spell properly...
People complaining about maxis service almost everywhere la.. mobile88, maxis hotlink official site, etc... need I say more?
Businessmen in Puchong Kinrara also complaining. Always commenting "no line". One of them, the boss of CKL Machinery S/B, his maxis bill is 400-500 per month. Always saying "no line" on a quite new phone is one weird thing about 012 that happens, but we wonder why, horr? {maxis no $ to upgrade their voice encoding systems to support the extra load probably - never happened till the launch of the cheap $88 and $68 now SIMpacks}

Additional sources of how bad maxis is: just look at this thread's poll la....and my itemised bill....
U want proof? Can...I can prove to you how LOUSY maxis signal is... just look at my 019 bill, a LOT of 1-3 seconds calls (cos kena voicemail, then cancel call)...there's a lot of 1 sec voicemail calls in Sunway Pyramid...calling 012-6 in Sunway pyramid...when I try to call again, sometimes only can get through.......

Maxis gives a not-available message or voicemail EVEN WHEN THE RECEIVER'S PHONE IS 4 BAR, AND IDLE. Also sometimes the calls to 012-9 series sounds like a broken walkie talkie (you can hear what the 012-9 fella talk but she cannot hear what I, the 019-2 fella is talking. Nothing wrong with my phone. Definitely a Maxis problem.) Also sometimes maxis sms server dunno for what reason fails to receive a message (msg sending failed error, even with 220+ ringgit in the phone, airtime valid etc). Happens more with 012, can compare cos my usage of my 012 017 and 019 much the same.

Whereas, for comparison, not many people are talking bad about celcom. That means in most locations, celcom is much better; as celcom and maxis have a similar (close figure) number of subscribers according to today's NST newspaper.

ceo684

09-03-04, 18:59

also, digi is OK wat...just call their cust.service and ask them to put back the antenna or install an additional one la...while I was using digi,after I called them, just one week later they put an antenna just 200m down the road facing my house.. 016 perfect signal till now...my neighbour on 016 so I can say how good it is in my area.

ceo684

09-03-04, 19:00

broken antenna joke? might turn out to be reality if ur using an antenna phone - it can fracture internally and you never realise it...

chenyc

09-03-04, 20:56

Haha....say my IQ so low when he himself cannot even spell properly...
People complaining about maxis service almost everywhere la.. mobile88, maxis hotlink official site, etc... need I say more?

Yeap. All of the user complaining about maxis is poor already.

Additional sources of how bad maxis is: just look at this thread's poll la....and my itemised bill....
U want proof? Can...I can prove to you how LOUSY maxis signal is... just look at my 019 bill, a LOT of 1-3 seconds calls (cos kena voicemail, then cancel call)...there's a lot of 1 sec voicemail calls in Sunway Pyramid...calling 012-6 in Sunway pyramid...when I try to call again, sometimes only can get through.......

Maxis gives a not-available message or voicemail EVEN WHEN THE RECEIVER'S PHONE IS 4 BAR, AND IDLE. Also sometimes the calls to 012-9 series sounds like a broken walkie talkie (you can hear what the 012-9 fella talk but she cannot hear what I, the 019-2 fella is talking. Nothing wrong with my phone. Definitely a Maxis problem.) Also sometimes maxis sms server dunno for what reason fails to receive a message (msg sending failed error, even with 220+ ringgit in the phone, airtime valid etc). Happens more with 012, can compare cos my usage of my 012 017 and 019 much the same.

Yeap. Agree this with u. I got 1 maxis postpaid and 1 Hotlink prepaid line. Sometimes my prepaid line is not clear and some of my friend complaining to me too. Me sometimes kena voicemail too when afternoon time. The person that using maxis that dun have voicemail the phone said "Sorry, the number u have dail, is out of coverage area". He in KL man. He said to me it was full bar. Another case is my sis graduate at UPM Serdang. After the convo, all maxis user suffered. Can't call out and receiving calls. Even the SMS "Message not sent this time". Sedangkan celcom user can roam to TMTOUCH and TMTOUCH to celcom. celcom got 1 antenna around UPM area. Because the cell info display the name of the antenna is UPM.

xchris

09-03-04, 21:09

MAXIS is better for me & 70% of people I know (Penang people) 2nd =Digi then Celcom.....
This fact no one can change!

People complaining about maxis service almost everywhere la.. mobile88, maxis hotlink official site, etc... need I say more?
Businessmen in Puchong Kinrara also complaining. Always commenting "no line". One of them, the boss of CKL Machinery S/B, his maxis bill is 400-500 per month. Always saying "no line" on a quite new phone is one weird thing about 012 that happens, but we wonder why, horr? {maxis no $ to upgrade their voice encoding systems to support the extra load probably - never happened till the launch of the cheap $88 and $68 now SIMpacks}

See the above....!!

Clearly shows that Maxis line is bad in K.L but dunno why people in K.L still use Maxis & complain, complain..complain....... ??????????? Don't tell me that Penang users must switch to Celcom
despite Maxis is o.k here????

Hey man ,u cannot accept people use Maxis in Penang kah? Maybe U r working in Celcom :)
O.k ,admit lar that you work in Celcom than I can understand why u r so angry at Maxis Users...
Maybe you got some promotion can give to buysell members.... hmmm.. maybe if you
give us more incentives than Maxis I might consider switching to Celcom :)

ceo684

09-03-04, 23:59

chenyc

10-03-04, 08:53

that's the point....maxis in penang one little island, one huge server to support everyone...no prob...

but in KL.. everyone has to share two servers... but the proportion of users on each server in KL is waaaaay higher than in penang... dats why everyone's complaining...

Sorry to disappoint la...me not celcom or tmtouch nor maxis employee...lolz... but the fact remains that maxis is bad in KL area. (sounds like its better up north though) .... heheheh

BTW...celcom chat plan is quite good...think of it as a "package 125 maxis"... also for every 10 mins in a single call, u get 10% off. No access fee.

Prepaid user complaining that they didn't get any rewards for royalty. Stay for 2-3 years using Hotlink but no any bonus rewarded. Imagine if some heavy user reload more than RM60 a month, they didn't get any reward, the call charges didn't get any discount or any reload bonus. The useless discount coupon(m-coupon) got la. Postpaid user at least have Bonuslink points.

Communication is important for businessman. Takkan they suka-suka change their phone number. If change phone number so leceh. The business card have to write the new phone number or print new number business card. Inform others about your new number, that is waste of money. So that is the reason why some businessman is staying with the operator full of problem even they have choice to change.

ceo684

15-03-04, 10:09

chenyc

16-03-04, 14:59

agree...eh...i went 2 penang from KL just a few days ago...dats why so quiet on forum..

maxis, in the middle of the penang bridge, suddenly no line for 3 seconds or so...wat the heck...confirm dropped call spot...also when u turn right to georgetown, about 2-3 roads in, lagi no signal...1/0 bar oni. celcom going strong, 4 bars, with cell info summore. After trying out a 016-4 series in penang and along the highway, i realise that 016 has VASTLY improved...not bad on the expressway.

Last time I went Sungkai(Perak) to fetch my friend back home, my friend use 019. He play roaming. :p Some area celcom 1-2 line bar only. After roaming to TMTOUCH, 4 bar. hehe. :D In my home sometimes talk about 10 minutes the line suddenly disconnected. My house only got 1 maxis base station. celcom got 2 base station.

ceo684

18-03-04, 12:30

ahaha...yeah..whenever celcom tadak signal in da kampung, usually got 013 ;)

chenyc

27-03-04, 19:06

ceo684

28-03-04, 00:35

celcom Xplore, Xceed and Xcel SMS and airtime account has been combine into 1 single account where we can send SMS and make calls. Great job from from celcom. I think the GPRS for prepaid is coming shortly.

like this barulah syok...everytime muz check sms acc balance wan...hehe...at least now dun have to explain pjg lebar about 019 accounting system, just say its similar to the others...hehehe...

gprs on prepaid...hmm.... =)

ceo684

28-03-04, 00:37

eh...also...maxis said enjoy same services on 012 and 017 somewhere...till now. 012 can use gprs on hotlink. 017 cannot. (at last check 3 days ago)

chenyc

04-04-04, 00:16

eh...also...maxis said enjoy same services on 012 and 017 somewhere...till now. 012 can use gprs on hotlink. 017 cannot. (at last check 3 days ago)

maxis cheating people clever la.

celcom 013 now introduced RM30 recharge for both touch advance and intm user. Very good job again from celcom. At least they heard our opinion. :)

godhpf

04-04-04, 15:06

im using hotlink..planning to switch to Xplore...
for me 019 the best..
hehe...last year december i went to pangkor...all those ppl with 016 cry...totally no line..
but in a day, there will be a minute or two when 016 got line...
012 and 019 users laugh at digi users..hahahah
for me ...when digi make calls..always got that ...phantom voice..ehhe
no good....they should try to make it better ...

godhpf

04-04-04, 15:07

hotlink sux also....after merge really giving hotlink users headache...
thumbs down

ceo684

05-04-04, 13:57

godhpf... u wan to buy a 019 xplore sim card? its >6 mths dee...got more reload bonus if u want. Quite nice num. 019 -697 6695... hehehe..its my backup no. 5 #....99.999% guarantee no sms/calls

godhpf

06-04-04, 19:55

omg....i juz came back from buying one....omg omg omg!!!
shud da check this forum earlier..omgomg

syong888

06-04-04, 22:21

maxis cheating people clever la.

celcom 013 now introduced RM30 recharge for both touch advance and intm user. Very good job again from celcom. At least they heard our opinion. :)

Blood Sucker........

chenyc

07-04-04, 07:36

omg....i juz came back from buying one....omg omg omg!!!
shud da check this forum earlier..omgomg

Haha... u omg many times also no use wat.

leejshing

07-04-04, 12:48

don use celcom la! super super lousy

I call 3 hours 019-3000900 and 019-3000909!
cannot call in! *** celcom!!!
Super super lousy!!!!!!!!

scorgio

07-04-04, 13:48

I must admit, that 017 before merge had maybe the worst coverage area. But it's still very good for me. Because I seldom go to such area. And because 017 had fewer user, the line quality and capacity was excellent.
017 is the best in highway at that time. After merging with 012, I sometimes get only 1 bar of signal strength on my phone while last time I got at least 3 out of 5.

ceo684

07-04-04, 14:15

bdl

07-04-04, 16:04

hah..hha.. Celcom business is so good .. till had to sell to Telekom ... :D :D ...

bdl

07-04-04, 17:01

From: careline@celcom.com.my

Subject: Re: customer servies?
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 04 13:00:05 +0800

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your e-mail.

We are responding your enquiry about your problem on the difficulty to
have access to our service centre at 019-3000900

On behalf of Celcom, I would like to apologize for any inconvenience
caused.

In case you have difficulty in reaching us, kindly contact us via
e-mail. We will try our best to solve your problem as soon as
possible.

Once again, please accept my apology on behalf of Celcom.

Thank you.

Khalawiah Jamaluddin
Customer Service Department

-- this the reply you get after e-mail & complian to them ..
--- no reason given .. :D :D ....

leejshing

07-04-04, 17:56

haha....try callin 010-3000900 - or the Celcom Jln Ampang KL branch number (pay local rate)- easier to get through. U ppl ah, free customer service also complain. If server bz den try again tomoro la...what's wrong? Peak hour, a LOT of people will call in to enquire about this and that.

Prepaid 012 must pay to call customer service - of cos noone will call la...stupid meh..muz pay money dei!

thats why 012 cust service not clogged up with people trying to call in...but u PAY la...heheh...

012 u want to register for a line, also never tell u clearly what's available...unlike celcom. Maxis will push the P138, 238 wic is useless. I want to get info on the 20 access fee type of line, I have to call them or goto the hp shop... if i call, i have to pay (obviously I dont have a maxis postpaid la)....

MAXIS = BLOOD SUCKER COMPANY - WE, THE CITIZENS OF AMERICA, OOPS, MALAYSIA, SHOULD BOYCOTT IT, USE ITS COMPETITIORS AND LET THINGS WORK FOR US CONSUMERS, NOT WE WORK FOR THEM!!

if i need urgent then how? 1 call make a lot money u know???

012 customer servies is good!
Last lime my cousin on high way call coutomer servies center!
buy u know high way some time no line 1 right!
when he call asking something, but a few min no line!
then disconnect, but when have line!
the customer servies call back to my cousin!!

if 019 can make the servies like this! pay for call customer i also don mid!

just now about 4/30pm, i just get call in celcom customer servies!
after i call in, give me wait about 10min!

i go celcom shop say i want to pay my father phone bil!(my father line is 013)
the ppl tell me here cannot pay! only 019 line can pay here!
but on the bil icon is show Celcom! i ask then why i cannot pay?
the ppl tell me, because cannot pay! so cannot loh!
i ask, oredi join together ma! why cannot pay!
the ppl tell me! pc haven update!

walao, the sign board oredi show celcom!
but tell me cannot pay!!!!

i am using maxis now!
i not say maxis is good!
some time maxis also have problem!
but maxis can fix the problem asap!

like celcom, time, tm touch!
cannot fix the problem asap 1.
always ask the customer wait wait wati wait wait!!

i also want to ask! why celcom last time cannot cancel voice mail?
i say i don want! the customer servies tell me! u cannot cancel!
i ask! why cannot cancel! then the ppl tell me!
u must have this servies! u cannot cancel!!

i don know how to explain la! i have kena a lot probelm with celcom and tm touch la!
maybe u did not kena this kind of problem!!!!

i also want to ask wat is serve bz? if the serve bz u must upgrade ma!
don ask me wait ma!!
i only 1 of the customer complain at here! u think the time have how many many ppl want to call the customer servies or not?

i not first time kena this problem!!
i have kena a lot a lot time oredi?
may i ask, when celcom can fix this problem?

godhpf

07-04-04, 20:11

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Originally Posted by godhpf
omg....i juz came back from buying one....omg omg omg!!!
shud da check this forum earlier..omgomg
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Haha... u omg many times also no use wat.
haih....yalor....wat luck i have
bang the car....
bank new passbook cannot use with that passbook update machine
all kind of sickness...
damn....

chenyc

07-04-04, 22:06

if i need urgent then how? 1 call make a lot money u know???

What info that u want to know about celcom? Or u want to "masak bubur" with the consultant? How many $$$ does is takes for calling to careline?

012 customer servies is good!
Last lime my cousin on high way call coutomer servies center!
buy u know high way some time no line 1 right!
when he call asking something, but a few min no line!
then disconnect, but when have line!
the customer servies call back to my cousin!!

Your cousin use postpaid or prepaid? Now see, maxis has so many drop call one already.

if 019 can make the servies like this! pay for call customer i also don mid!

just now about 4/30pm, i just get call in celcom customer servies!
after i call in, give me wait about 10min!

i go celcom shop say i want to pay my father phone bil!(my father line is 013)
the ppl tell me here cannot pay! only 019 line can pay here!
but on the bil icon is show Celcom! i ask then why i cannot pay?
the ppl tell me, because cannot pay! so cannot loh!
i ask, oredi join together ma! why cannot pay!
the ppl tell me! pc haven update!

walao, the sign board oredi show celcom!
but tell me cannot pay!!!!

celcom not yet integrate 100% the system. U can pay your bills at post office also.

i am using maxis now!
i not say maxis is good!
some time maxis also have problem!
but maxis can fix the problem asap!

I dun think maxis fix the problem fast. Many prepaid user have complain that the low balance announcement is annoying for so many years but this year they only take action. The GPRS has so many problems. So many drop connections that I've experienced.

like celcom, time, tm touch!
cannot fix the problem asap 1.
always ask the customer wait wait wati wait wait!!

Now, celcom has added 2 new BTS in my area and the combination of airtime and SMS account has been implemented. At least they keep their words

Last time TIMECel customer service is really good. Few years, I help my friend to check the WAP settings for his phone, the consultant are more polite and gives accurate info to customers than nowadays Hotlink. That time TIMECel customer service is FOC. But now have to pay.

i also want to ask! why celcom last time cannot cancel voice mail?
i say i don want! the customer servies tell me! u cannot cancel!
i ask! why cannot cancel! then the ppl tell me!
u must have this servies! u cannot cancel!!

U sure or not? How u ask them? Why I can cancel the voicemail, u cannot? We can activate it back ourself somemore.

i don know how to explain la! i have kena a lot probelm with celcom and tm touch la!
maybe u did not kena this kind of problem!!!!

i also want to ask wat is serve bz? if the serve bz u must upgrade ma!
don ask me wait ma!!
i only 1 of the customer complain at here! u think the time have how many many ppl want to call the customer servies or not?

i not first time kena this problem!!
i have kena a lot a lot time oredi?
may i ask, when celcom can fix this problem?

I went celcom Menara TR 2 days ago. Their customer service officer is more friendly. celcom has improved so much just u dun knew it.

leejshing

08-04-04, 00:49

i not mean i call care line i can earn how many money!!!
if my handphone no money oredi! i need call care line top up!
but i cannot call in, at the same time! i need make a call very urgent then how?

u will ask me using public telephone right?

celcom not yet integrate 100% the system. U can pay your bills at post office also.
for this i not agree, if like this! why u need center?
close center loh! then all play at pos office!
if u want more need 1 i also have, m2u la! no need go out!!
more easy right????

the problem u have with maxis!
maybe i don have! thx for u telling have this kind problem!
if i kena this problem! i will bang maxis also!
don worry!!

Now, celcom has added 2 new BTS in my area and the combination of airtime and SMS account has been implemented. At least they keep their words
at ur area??? for wat? for u ah? we are talking about Malaysia!
not only ur side! then ur side very good loh! my side very lousy!
at celcom only make the good servies at ur side enough oredi la!

I went celcom Menara TR 2 days ago. Their customer service officer is more friendly. celcom has improved so much just u dun knew it.

So u need i went to MANARA TR or not???
And friendly is ok la! if the servies not good friendly also no use wat?

We are talking Malaysia, not only ur area!!!
And i don have say which 1 is good or which 1 is bad!!!
I just sharing the problem i kena before!!!
Don so angry, maxis, tm touch, digi, time and celcom also have something is not good 1!

godhpf

08-04-04, 06:34

hahaha....cool down dudes

godhpf

08-04-04, 06:41

wow..this thread has been active for so long...sure alot ppl hate 012 :D

bdl

08-04-04, 09:47

wow..this thread has been active for so long...sure alot ppl hate 012 :D

--hha..hha... sure they hate Maxis-lah ...
--because Maxis is taking away most of their business-mah .. :D :D ....
-- even Celcom the previous "tai ko" in communication also had to sell off to Telekom..
-- is that their business is too good .. cannot handle-liao-kah ..?? :D ...

chenyc

08-04-04, 09:49

hahaha....cool down dudes

Yalor... cool down. I dun hate maxis, DiGi or celcom.

leejshing

08-04-04, 10:07

Yalor... cool down. I dun hate maxis, DiGi or celcom.

i don have angry!! we just discuss about this!

Don worry! :D

ceo684

08-04-04, 14:00

if i need urgent then how? 1 call make a lot money u know???

>> whahaha,....since when did calls to 019 3000910, 3000900 etc get charged? U got use celcom b4 otr not?

012 customer servies is good!
Last lime my cousin on high way call coutomer servies center!
buy u know high way some time no line 1 right!
when he call asking something, but a few min no line!
then disconnect, but when have line!
the customer servies call back to my cousin!!

if 019 can make the servies like this! pay for call customer i also don mid!

>> 019 very very few dropped calls (never happen to me) even on highway.

just now about 4/30pm, i just get call in celcom customer servies!
after i call in, give me wait about 10min!

i go celcom shop say i want to pay my father phone bil!(my father line is 013)
the ppl tell me here cannot pay! only 019 line can pay here!
but on the bil icon is show Celcom! i ask then why i cannot pay?
the ppl tell me, because cannot pay! so cannot loh!
i ask, oredi join together ma! why cannot pay!
the ppl tell me! pc haven update!

walao, the sign board oredi show celcom!
but tell me cannot pay!!!!

>> U can pay at KLCC wat..? where u tried to pay? even the celcom branch in port klang (considered a ULU place la, k?) can pay 013 019 long time dee wat

i am using maxis now!
i not say maxis is good!
some time maxis also have problem!
but maxis can fix the problem asap!

>> Haha....last year maxis had some of the worst things dat happen... totally NO line in klang town for like 6-8 hours.
>> maxis (after merge w/017) : my prepaid 017 sms blocked dee, so i reload 30...took me 4 days, and still notchet working (can call but sms still blocked). So i call maxis one morning. The idiot told me to turn off then wait 10 mins den on again dunno wat la....still not working..... very frustrated. SO i left it till night, also NOT WORKING AFTER 4 F***ING DAYS I RELOADED. So call maxis again. Then oni da fella unblocked the prepaid sms block. SO EFFICIENT

like celcom, time, tm touch!
cannot fix the problem asap 1.
always ask the customer wait wait wati wait wait!!

i also want to ask! why celcom last time cannot cancel voice mail?
i say i don want! the customer servies tell me! u cannot cancel!
i ask! why cannot cancel! then the ppl tell me!
u must have this servies! u cannot cancel!!

>>who say cannot cancel. My Xplore and Xceed prepaid all have NO voicemail. And all i haf to do is just ask nicely, and i got it cancelled. I made a total of 3 calls at different time during the year for 3 different numbers, and all the times i was able to cancel voicemail with no fuss.

i don know how to explain la! i have kena a lot probelm with celcom and tm touch la!
maybe u did not kena this kind of problem!!!!

i also want to ask wat is serve bz? if the serve bz u must upgrade ma!
don ask me wait ma!!
i only 1 of the customer complain at here! u think the time have how many many ppl want to call the customer servies or not?

>>U one lelong forumer, there are 3.85million+ celcom users la... summore the 013 and 019 now sharing the same helpline resources

i not first time kena this problem!!
i have kena a lot a lot time oredi?
may i ask, when celcom can fix this problem?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

leejshing

08-04-04, 16:49

ceo i don know how to reply ur thread!
because ur thinking all is maxis bad!!!

ceo684

08-04-04, 22:21

wah lao...overload dee...lol...jk..
true story....i can swear by God this happened to me... and im not exactly very happy about it...

Today, I agree with u that 3000900 hard to call in. 8pm say nwk bz. OK, i try again at 9.20. Works perfectly, I confirmed that muh payment has been credited aledi, thats all i need to noe...then end call... fast n easy.

Oh..maxis is not TOTALLY bad... they gave me 200 bucks free on my 017 prepaid dunno for wat...lolz...ppl expect balance 28 or so, suddenly oni 228...fuiyoh...upto now still 220+...hahaahaa...

ceo684

08-04-04, 22:29

i not mean i call care line i can earn how many money!!!
if my handphone no money oredi! i need call care line top up!
but i cannot call in, at the same time! i need make a call very urgent then how?

(Above quoted)

erm....019 3000 900 is for POSTPAID CUST SERVICE LA> 019 3000 910 is for PREPAID careline ...u need to topup, u call them on 019 3000 "910" la, not 900 .... or send a sms to 2999 (or was it 2888?) to reload oso can wat...

u want to check ur bill den oni u call 3000900

personally, the menara TR ppl are much more frenly and efficient compared to the port klang service center. Prefer going to KL to pay the bill cos got express bill payment line - very fast. U goto portklang u waste about 10 mins+ waiting

ceo684

08-04-04, 22:31

PS. On prepaid u can just call 1930 for the teleservice if u wanna topup;
for customer service just call 1900 la...simple...

chenyc

09-04-04, 22:47

<font color=red size=7>NOW SEE THIS</font>

Celcom users will now be able to have access to more storage and more features with Celcom''s smart SIM, Malaysia''s first 128k SIM.

The new Celcom Smart SIM will enable Celcom users to have better access to the latest stock information, sports updates, horoscopes, campus news, and contests.

The Celcom smart SIM is a new and improved SIM card which enables you to browse through a menu and personalise the menu to suit your needs. Info-On-Demand is one of the service offered with the Celcom smart SIM.

The 128K SIM Browser has a marked difference from the current SIM Tool Kit (STK), in that the menu structure for its SMS services are now server-based, as opposed to SIM based. This enables customers to browse using a menu browser to retrieve SMS content using their mobile phones without the hassle of remembering short-codes or key words.

The Celcom smart SIM will enhance your mobile lifestyle as it is personalized, easy access, user friendly, offers more storage capabilities for messages and phone numbers and valuable information at your fingertips.

The 64K smart SIM is now available for 019 & 013 postpaid customers only. The 128K smart SIM is now available for 019 postpaid customers only.

The smart SIM will be extended to prepaid customers soon.

Do keep a look out for it. For more details on the smart SIM''s features just log on to http://www.celcom.com.my.